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I think Im gonna compile all the sources/articles posted on this thread, kinda like a crash course in the Isreali-Palastinian conflict... I'd like to see more from the Israelis' point of view though...from an israeli would be nice or perhaps from outsiders who know the "Whys" instead of...

hmm, it may definately be more accurate but won't writting that make me look like a biased fucked up know-it-all Ass? :angel: :D

Point Taken! :D :smoke: (feel so stupid) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who ever said democracy was evil? But Democracy is a tool for politics and especially economics, when you have power to influence mass people with television, news reports...

Who ever said democracy was evil? But Democracy is a tool for politics and especially economics, when you have power to influence mass people with television, news reports and the like you are able to create a false reality...this is how I believe to some extent western democracy is bieng...

Here was one of the reports of the recent bombing. Very in-depth stuffs, no? :D Objectively portraying whats been happening.:smoke: yahoo AP(associated press) news ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Suicide Bombings Since Truce Mon Apr...

Isn't that what ReBeL is talking about? Events that he has seen and gone through himself?

Like I said, no one has the REAL Balls to step up to the US, not the UN not Europe as a whole not nobody. There were some countries who critisize the US such as Germany, France and even China, but not really enough.

They were the in the same situation 25-30 + years ago, then many events happened and they took different paths and now are in different courses which leads them to have different struggles. Not really the same in that sense. But interms of the background of the people, the local language and...

Well thats my take on what I know from Malaysia, I admire the country and the government for sometime now.

I think Enron is already starting to open up abit, that even Palestinians know that violence in reality will get them nowhere. Him and ReBeL are now sitting at the table instead of standing infront of one another :D That is why we need referee's in every conflict, just to calm situations...

That is also what I meant by the flaws in my theory. But there are people who want the best for others, who are selfless (well not totally, coz no one can be like that completely), but have a strong integraty to be true to yourself and others and devote the power we have to keep fairness...

Yes ofcourse, Violence should never be incouraged...but all of us (EAST, WEST, NORTH, SOUTH) understand that it is legitimate to use it, for defensive purposes. And yes there is a problem there regarding revenge and I think one reason it hasn't stopped is that there is no Referee here. The US...

Thats spot on what I meant too:agree: (in bold) With Authoritarian (as the name suggest) the well bieng of the people is more or less dependant on 1 person or a certain group of people. While it may bring prosperity it may also bring oppression, depending on who rules. Now to me the...

That is ofcourse the wishes of many, including Palestinians and Jews alike. If you understand that tanks roll daily through Palestinian towns then perhaps it might not be too much to see why ReBel is so sensitive about the matter, especially when people just start to blame Palestinians for...

Just to comment on that...even Democracy has its flaws. And sometimes Authoritarian type governments aren't bad at all (I mean when they benifit the overall lives of the people). Not all ideas are for everybody and not everybody are willing to accept them thus the act of forcing Democracy in...

I meant it on a more neutral point of view. If they ARE in a cease fire then it would be a step backwards to do such a bombing, but like the palestinian guy said, they are getting terrorized each day without anybody knowing about it. So did the cease fire really exist ? Or did we just not...

I think many in this thread still don't understand clearly the real situation out there.

Hey Phrozen, don't tire yourself out...plus rep for your effort in actually creating a debate in here with arguments and facts to back them up... I see your pretty new to these forums, and the posts that I've read are thought out stuff from you.. Just wanna remind you that this is (in all...