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Yup. Juve don't currently have that top gear to really force a high tempo the way they did with 4-3-3 last season.

Really poor showing, both in terms of attitude and organisation. This game showed a lot of the weaknesses of 3-5-2 I've been banging on about. 3-5-2 against one striker systems is always awkward and you need clear plans on how the spare CB is going to play and Juve didn't seem to have...

I'd say watching Chelsea is punishment enough.

Chygrynskiy still plays for them, doesn't he? He was always a terrible defender.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_p0CgPeyA#t=02m15s