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dortmund really need to work on their "drawing"-skills. worst possible cl group and now they got drawn the two worst fixtures possible in cl and german cup within 13 hours or something ^^ btw: bookies now got juve at ~10-11 to 1 for the title. that´s 5th behind barca (3.5), real (5), bayern and...

rofl, describes the game perfectly ^^

it´s not about "easy" it´s about "easier"... furthermore it´s a pretty physical side so i think we should be fine.

probably the best draw we could have hoped for... NICE

:scared: i would accept the second toughest one right now (who ever that might be) but let´s please avoid real so early...

http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2013/draws/index.html 2sec ahead of my TV picture ^^

1hour 15min from now

statistically speaking hannover played dortmund 4 times in the german cup and won all 4. let´s see how that turned out for them yesterday: (fuck auto embedding) oh, almost forgot: götze :tuttosport:

imo it´s quite hard to calculate it correctly (but i have to admit that i´ve never been very good at this :D) so if i had to do it i would probably write a program, run it all night long and see what happens :P. the original source doesn´t state how it was done.

well i´m hoping for celtic or galatasaray :D obviously nothing is decided yet but i found it kinda interesting that some pairings are actualy twice as likely as some others...

hope this hasn´t been posted: highest number in the table? milan - barca :) (second highest juve - real :( )