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They did announce the decision. They are waiting court's decision which means that they won't be relegating this year. I haven't read anything about Lugano to go to Juve on Turkish media. They're not saying anything but he did express his excitement about CL a month ago. He does have 3.5...

"It is harder to crack a prejudice than an atom." Einstein

Good link. I'll translate the bold parts. On February 8, 2009, Mesut says, "I'm Turkish and I will always be Turkish but I feel good when I play for German National Team." On the last paragraph, his father says, "Mesut is wearing German jersey and it's totally different concept than we're...

Tell me how he's kurdish. Elaborate.

I don't want to talk about him since this is Lugano's topic but I'll go ahead. How many times have you watched Arda? I don't think you watched him as much as you were able to watch Mesut. They're both Turkish players and we've been watching them more likely more than you have. This is the...

They can't. We never had any Moggi's in our 106 years of history. :lol2:

I agree. But they're richer. Lugano is 30. This is the last lucrative contract he might sign in his life. So I'd understand why he wants to stay in Fener, especially when he can play in Champions League. And they didn't relegate Fener. How could they? President of Turkish Federation is a...

European Powerhouse? Barcelona and Real Madrid weren't interested in him.

He already said that ten days ago or so. He said, "I'm very excited about playing in CL this year, I don't even think about relegation." Read, learn and then talk.

I don't think so. He always wanted to go to Italia but nobody can really offer him a contract as much as Fener did, so he returned back to Turkey and renewed his contract last year. He has a clause on his contract for 3.5 mils, if you pay up, you can get him. But since you guys are waiting...

They will announce at 17.30 on Turkish time, which is 1 hour ahead of Italia. I don't think Fenerbahce will relegate, even though I want them to go to lowest league as possible.

Not today. They said, they will announce it within this week. I hope they will relegate and you guys get Lugano for free. As much as I want that to happen, I dont think that will happen.

It's all politics. Politics are %100 inside of football in Turkey. Fenerbahce's president Yildirim is known as someone who threats everyone in Turkish Football. I knew this since 2001. He has a habit of going to referee's rooms in half times and threat them to do a better job on the pitch for...

By the way, this is Lugano topic. Why don't you guys already pay him 3.5 millions and get him? Someone is gonna say, "We are waiting for Fener to get relegated, so we can have him for free." But there is a good chance that Fener might stay because president of Turkey is a hardcore Fenerbahce...

I said it before, you can disagree with 2 or 3. That's not the point. Point is just because Pepe plays in Real Madrid, he's not better than the rest of the defender players who play in smaller teams than Real Madrid. But it was up to me, yeah I'd rather put Chivu, Criscito than Pepe.

Pepe isn't that good. He's too clumsy to be a great centre-defender. He can get red card in any minute. Pique, Ferdinand, Puyol, Vidic, Lucio, Chiellini, Alex, Samuel, Nesta, Criscito, Chivu, Terry, Kompany, Kjaer, Toure, David Luiz, Subotic. You can disagree with 2, 3 or more. It doesn't...

I don't understand this mentality. Good players don't have to play in biggest teams in the world, so you can admit that they're good. It doesn't work that way. Just because Mesut plays for Real Madrid and Arda plays in Atletico, it doesn't make Mesut better than Arda. Real Madrid have Carvalho...

Who said that Hakan Sukur was going to double his value? I never said that. I dont like him at all.

And? What does that prove? Ibrahimovic went to Barcelona 40 mil + Eto but Barca sold him back for half of what they paid.

How much did Mesut go for? 55? I don't think so. They're both Turkish, so obviously you don't know them better than us. And you're twisting words because nobody said Arda is far better than Mesut. He went for 12+1 millions because he has 2 years remaining in his contract. If we didn't sell him...