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Its 12 mil+ 3 depending on bonus. And we are selling Immobile on a separate deal. I do not rate him, but 15 mil for a defender in an inflated market we are isn't as bad as Andy Carroll transfer to Liverpoool.

Im in the same position, never seen enough of Ogbonna to judge him. I am fickled with this defender as he doesnt get into the NT and being displaced by Astori is something to be concern.

What I meant top 10 in the world under 25? Something to get all of us excited, is he that good.

Where would you rate him among the best in the world at his age? Top 10 in the world?

Is this guy worth the hype and the valuation? Do you guys see him as a replacement or a permanent bench candidate?

Benfica moving in for Doria. Another young talent lost in our pursuit for Italian players. Can imagine Doria will be another James Rodriguez case.

We did sell Immobile half at 5 million a year ago when he haven't got any Serie A experience and yeah Ziegler would be around 3 million to be honest. So the valuation is justified.

That would make the deal at 20million. Something what Torino was asking for . Surprise Marotta would include 10 m in cash here. I was expecting something lower than that. Is he really worth that much for so called backup position. Are the price inflated due to other clubs interest? I don't know.

I think he is over rated. He is not even chosen as a backup for Italy NT.

Ogbonna , if we do sign him who in our D will Conte drop. Bon Bon ?

We are not going to get an unproven defender unless Conte is certain he is going to be starting next to Chielini. No point paying for any 3rd/4th choice defender when they would be using those money for other positions. Can't see this transfer happening.