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In most cases they are.

That's not the point Andy. The point is non discrimination and tolerance against a common practice.

Go to the Religion subsection, "Did loverboy get it correct" thread. Your reasoning for not discriminating against gay people or incests was that if it became common, we should be tolerant with them so long as they aren't causing us any harm. By that reasoning, i think it would be safe to say...

Wait, then shouldn't the same be applied to women wearing the Hijab? I mean certainly muslim women wearing Hihab are more common than gay people(at least statistically). Doesn't that mean we shouldn't condemn them too? As for your second statement. Thats a low blow, one that i didn't think...

What if it becomes common.?

Well would it. Since we established that fucking one's mom is acceptable from a moral perspective, i doubt the world would be a better place.

Muhammed as in me? Well then ya, i thought that was obvious :D

The keyword being: your opinion.

Well ya. But thats another story for another day. :P You just said it, you believe that "moral judgement is deduced from the current status of the outside world". I don't. In a moral discussion where you believe in moral relativism. You cannot establish that i'm wrong. I feel very...

From a moral perspective? Your making it sound like there is only one moral perspective, i thought you didn't believe in an objective moral standard If you believe in moral relativism, then you wouldn't say that.

Yup. Cannot believe these people sometimes. They have no problem with someone fucking his sister/mother, but a woman wearing a piece of cloth on her head, that's just unacceptable :lol:

Well then we can have a discussion about morality. But first, you watch too much porn :D So the only problem in all of this is that it might cause pregnancy? Meaning, you wouldn't have a problem with it if pregnancy were guaranteed not to happen? Nope, it is completely disrespectful...

Exactly. Now we've reached a level, where we sit down to discuss and argue whether fucking your own mother is moral or not. Oh how low we have steeped.

So if 90% of the worlds population started fucking their mothers, you'd be ok with it?

So just because you can't find a rational argument as to why it's not moral, then that makes it ok? fuck that, rational explanation or not. It's wrong.

It's ok to fuck your cousin?