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[/B] 1-He didn't get a fair chance to do so, but were not going to get into this anymore. You're right, I'm a big fan of tiago why? because before coming to juve he was something, not your typical superstar but damn I enjoyed his game at chelsea and lyon. 2-I said overall, I never asked...

Yeah, a la tiago? And don't you dare say knezevic is an overall better player.

[/B] Yeah, seems like you just read some goal.com facts of life. From now on I'm going to call you bullshit , suits you well, no particular offense.

haha I hope so :P. Man I just have a sweet spot for tiago :(

Do you consider artmedia good, he might play against them next week :P

Witty reply.

He didn't fail, he didn't do enough to impress the masses, big difference.

You make no sense whatsoever.

Thank you for enlightening me. I was never good with differentiating numbers, not to mention numbers with % next to them. For your own sake stop contradicting yourself, you said you cared little about stats, yet its the "stronghold" of your arguments.

He was never a "great" player, in the sense that he never scored too many goals and wasn't the go to guy. He held the midfield compact, gifted the flashier players with assists that led to goals, spread the ball and held possession. That's what you fail to realize.

or the lack of confidence from the coach.

May the force be with you.

The circumstances surrounding those 20 games go unnoticed. I'm going to state 2 of these. Here goes : 1 Lack of support from ranieri and the whole media just because he cost us the most last season. 2 It was his first season in serie a, he wasnt well acquainted, we all know that it isn't that...

Stop trying to look smart. He started 10 I said 6 big fucking deal, I told you out of those 10 starts he never finished a single game, I also stated my take on those sub appearances. Why are you stressing on stats since you're saying they aren't important?

Yeah you're right, I knew he didn't have that much assists but I played along with lampard, he was trying to look smart.

The way I see it, tiago is staying here to prove his critics wrong and or because he loves the club.

When he started games he got subbed at halftime, not once he finished a game. Those sub appearances are not worth mentioning, I remember he came on in garbage time at least 4 times this season. And if you ask me 12 assists aren't bad at all, considering his playing time.

You labeled him a flop after his first game, that my friend isn't a fair chance.

Yeah because starting 6 games, is all it takes to label someone a success or not. If it wasn't for the media you would have been supporting his case as we speak. I cant understand how people can forget the way people treated tiago, including ranieri and co, the media and the fucking fans. When...

Because like the majority of juventus fans, you didn't give him a fair chance to begin with. And don't tell me hes a flop that word is so overrated.