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I suspect that uefa are perhaps righting a wrong against Celtic from way back... Celtic/Scottish teams aren't automaticaly given a yellow card when something like this happens... When Celtic played Rapid Vienna around fifteen years or so ago, a Rapid player collpased to the ground claiming...

...ouch!...that hurts:oops:...but true

This thing is growing arms and legs...Champions League 07/08 here only paleeeaaassse:rolleyes:

FC Barcelona (ESP) Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) VfB Stuttgart (GER) Rangers FC (SCO) It's a real tough group without a doubt...thing is, Rangers are always good against German teams and Lyon may wilt at Ibrox as they did at Celtic Park...you have to factor in the Ibrox atmosphere... it...

You are correct...so why are we bringing Juve into this?... Let's talk current issues...would be a better discussion for everyone...lets talk Rangers group chances if you wish...

Is this still the Champions League thread? Maybe we've strayed slightley off topic people here don't you think?..lets talk CL here only...we have an SPL thread for the other issue

I AM one of them...hence the BHOY part of my nomedeplume... Celtics are great going forward, but defence is cr*p... The major difference between the top, say, six leagues in Europe and the rest is the capabilities of the defences... not the forwards:agree: Celtic are great to watch...

...overconfident Celtic?...we are gonna get our botties booted big time:agree:

Celtic will eat their gonnads... marinated in a fine chianti... In my dreams

I've been watching the German games this season...Bayern do indeed look very good:agree:

link to match fixture list http://www.uefa.com/newsfiles/577692.pdf

Found this link http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/data/method3/trank2007.html looking at this, three seasons out of European football could have serious consequences for Juventus when they return...when they get into the group stages they may have tumbled down to pot three:cry:

I did notice but I didn't want to bring the Scottish thing to this thread more than I had to:) ...here, wait a minute...Celtic a weeker team:tdown: ...ah well...ok:cool: No matter what the form I go for Hibs...but if Hearts play in Europe I support them. Hibs play attractive...

I could happily live with this...especially line D:D

My predictions A' Liverpool, Porto, Marseille, Besiktas B’ Chelsea, Valencia, Schalke, Rosenborg C’ Real Madrid, Werder Bremen, Lazio, Olympiacos D’ Milan, Benfica, Celtic , Shakhtar Donetsk ...I am a Celtic man after all E’ Barcelona, Lyon, Stuttgart, Rangers ...I am a Celtic man afer...

unless manu start clicking soon they will find themselves in the uefa elsewhere, looks like top seeds will cruise and the rest can fight it out for second...