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  1. Rami

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    002.135 002.130 002.256 002.087 002.136 005.046 005.116 003.059 004.156 Snoop, these are excerpts from the Quran, take it or leave it!
  2. Rami

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    First of all, I really don't like your sarcastic attitude and it is no way to have a healthy discussion, but I believe by now its impossible to have one, so this is my last reply to you and then I will withdraw gallantly from this driveled discussion. 1-No not a fact from the Quran or...
  3. Rami

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    Could it be Seven's "sister"?:P
  4. Rami

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    and why are you qouting yourself? what does that have to do with anything?
  5. Rami

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    What happened with seven? were you even a member then??
  6. Rami

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    why are you looking for trouble? The guy backed down....:wallbang:
  7. Rami

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    And lobbying for a ban is an argument??
  8. Rami

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    1-Not fake, but been changed more or less in some of its verses. Its a known fact and priest usually try to downplay that fact with different tactics. 2- No god did not leave you astray snoop, as with the Jewish in 200 AD, he sent him the bible, but was reluctant to read the continuance of...
  9. Rami

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    Its pretty much the same story true, but I would like to comment that in Islam Satan was not an angel, but a Jinn or demon. Lots of Muslims believe he was an angel, where it is just a misconception. It is stated explicitly in the Quran that he was Jinn.
  10. Rami

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    A valid question there Snoop, a clue that would answer your question is that you misinterpreted what I said. The bible was sent by god but altered (tell me if you think it was altered or not, that would help in the discussion). But since it was altered not everything is directly from the...
  11. Rami

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    No I think part of it was inspired but lost with all the other disciple books. From an Islamic point of view Jesus's and Moses books are gods books and infallible. And there are numerous references in the Quran mentioning alteration and damnation upon who done it. Regardless of the case, If...
  12. Rami

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    I have not seen him attacking someone because of not believing in the Quran...Iv seen him attack but not for that. It might be the case but missed it. But look on the other side...did this unbelieving person actually read the Quran?? Or is he just denying something he has no knowledge about...
  13. Rami

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    first of all I said all of them were sent straight from god, but the bible and torah were altered numerous times throughout history and that is fact, I am sure you are with me on this. Believing in these books and others is essential to the Islamic faith, denying them would deem me non-muslim...
  14. Rami

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    Which should be the case, sometimes violence is a must, or at least thats what I believe in. But of course it has to be justifable by clear cut guidelines not like what we see these days.... PS: whats ur name? I think I read it somewhere over here on the forum but forgot it.
  15. Rami

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    haha trust me I know him personally and he is the furthest from being any religion fanatic...take my word;)
  16. Rami

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    That is also not true! All three books come from the same source (god). But the thing is that its a fact that the bible and torah have been altered numurous times throughout history. While the quran did not, it is still as pure as it was sent down to muhammad, not one word changed, nay one...
  17. Rami

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    QUOTE] I've been saying all along they christianity and Islam are very much alike. But it's a fact christianity judged violence for whatever reason, whereas Islam does not. Does that mean muslims are more violent than christians? No the past has shown us it doesn't. You are wrong when you...
  18. Rami

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    Ok then what do you say about the Quranic verse "kan min al-jinn fa fasaq a'n amr rabih" Loosly translated "he (satan) was a jinn but disobediant to his god"??
  19. Rami

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    Ze Satan exist physically (or lack of better word), and was mentioned in the Quran as a creature created by god but was disobedient..there are countless (easily over 200) mentioning him...that goes to you vinnie also;)
  20. Rami

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    aha and you can honestly say that you did not see all this coming? Anyways its all good, I have no problem discussing all this....