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What the hell are you smoking????? Israel initiated the war??? It was the arabs who initiated the war in 67, and then resoundingly had their butts handed back to them by the superior Israeli forces. Israel was NOT the aggressor in that situation.

Don't ask me. If we don't get rid of this sad bastard soon we may not even have CL football next season and with that revenue stream lost then we would truly be in dire straits.

"The revelation comes from Turin-based daily La Stampa, which is managed by a holding company of the Fiat Group whose president is Juve patron John Elkann" La Stampa are claiming that the owners have decided to let Ciro go, and he has less than 48 hours remaining. Supposedly Blanc though...

I'm born in 75, i.e. 34 years old. And the level of my arguments will match the level of my opposition. With the stupidity being spewed in this thread there is reall no room for sound reasoning and argumentation because it is being/has been ignored.

Hey, idiot, I don't listen to fat Limbaugh, as I said, I am a socialist and a pacifist, so if you want to attack me you have to drop your stereotypes, thank you very much. Fine. Israel has been kicking your @sses for 62 years, by all means continue to have your sons and daughters killed in a...

Actually, I would move out of Houston in a heartbeat if I could. For the time I have left in the US I would rather live in Dallas or San Antonio. And within 10 years I'll be living in either Italy (most likely) or possibly even Galilee. I was merely stating facts.

If this is the post you talk about then it is stupid. Houston is a self-governing region. We have a local government, with local government officials. We are a part of Texas and we have governing officials who we send to the state capital in Austin and thereby help to run the state. Often the...

Well, if a two state sollution is not an option, then the war and misery we have now is the only option. Because there is no third alternative. So the question is, do you want peace and a nation or do you want constant war and suffering? I don't deny the wrongs the Jews perpetrated, but...

Why do they deserve a nation more than Israel? And the UN Charter did not TAKE their country away, they never had one. It GRANTED them a nation in the West Bank, etc. Heck, Jerusalem was a part of their land grant, but they did not accept it. They would only accept pushing the Jews into the sea...

Wrong, equating it as you did is incorrect. There WERE designation of borders. Those borders belonged to the Greeks, Romans, Islamic Caliphates, Crusaders, Islamic Caliphates, Ottoman-Turks, and Brittish. Those are the nations who ruled this land, those were the borders of this land.

Ok I know I said I was gone, but I didn't quite get out the door yet and I saw this. I didn't say there was no people, I said there was no nation. Show me a nation. Name it, show me its government. There was Greece, Rome, the remnants of Rome, Islamic Caliphates, Crusaders, Islamic...

I'm on my way out of the office. I'll post more tommorow, or late this evening if I can. I have some family functions for the next several hours though.

I did not say that all of my time was at Petra, and yes I did engage as many locals as I could find. Cultural studies are a huge interest to me, and I love engaging and getting to meet and attempting to understand people as much as possible. I will not seek to kill in return, no. How do you...

Wrong, the UN gave them legal grounds when it declared them a state. What legal grounds are needed? And whose land did they take? There was NEVER a country/nation of Palestine. This area was a part of a succession of dynasties. They were rulled by the Greeks (briefly followed by Israeli...

In response to others claiming dastardly deeds of the Israeli's. My point was to show that both sides have blood on their hands, and neither are saints. To villify one or the other gets us nowhere at all. The simple fact is that Israel exists. It is not going to stop existing. Any move...

What are the facts? Israel accepted Clinton's terms, Palestine rejected them. Israel forcibly withdrew their settlers from Gaza and gave Palestine sovereingty. Paletine began immediately pouring rockets from Gaza into Israel. Show me ANYTHING that shows that the Palestinians want peace with Israel.

EXACTLY!

I'll be more than happy to engage in logical, reasoned debate with anyone who shows themselves willing to have it. You yourself so far seem to possibly be open to such conversation and I would gladly engage you in it. When there are idiots who show themselves unwilling to look at both sides I...

And yet you would accuse me of being the hate filled one. :lol: I love all people, and judge no one. You wish the death of "my kind". Yes, the new tollerance. Tollerating all things except those who disagree with them. Also, it's not THE seminary, it is seminary. There are thousands of...