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    Like I said back in December:

    http://www.juventuz.com/threads/4323...=1#post5655610

    We had 100m+ to spend this summer. Just believe me next time mkay.

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    Who's better now, Kovacic or Pjanic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavluska View Post
    Like I said back in December:

    http://www.juventuz.com/threads/4323...=1#post5655610

    We had 100m+ to spend this summer. Just believe me next time mkay.

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    Who's better now, Kovacic or Pjanic?
    pjanic, but they are exactly same type. and yeah, juve spent over 200m
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavluska View Post
    You must've ticked all of them in my post lol.

    SMS isn't a one season wonder. He was good the prev season too. A young player getting better each successive season only increases his value. Saying inconsistent Pjanic is better than Pogba and SMS is Matuidi=Sturaro level ridiculous form/result/rumors-based hype of the month type comment.

    That's not what I exactly said, but if you thought there was more chance of us selling HG young Rugani instead of 28 yo Pjanic for a fee higher than his market/actual price (like 100m) when we've been selling good players in their late 20s since at least the 1960s, OK.

    Just because we bought Ronaldo doesn't mean we've Real?Barca/Utd money now and can buy anyone. After spending like 150m net in this mercato, we had to sell to buy. Asking the club to sign another CM while simultaneously ignoring simple financial facts makes no sense.

    Cuadrado will definitely get games at RB this season. It's a given. Even the coach said so. And unless you think we'll play this season with only three healthy FBs with one them being heavily injury-prone.

    I have no idea what you're on about and how this relates to my post. But since you talk absolute bollocks when it comes to Pjanic, much to the point that you called Matuidi 'our most important midfielder and the one adds balance' just to sound different , its hard to take that opinion seriously. Matuidi is nothing more than a rich man's Sturaro at best. You can get just about any half decent DM/B2B who runs his lungs out and they'd add 'balance' to this midfield, its not hard lol. But the difference in our play is pretty evident when Pjanic doesnt start for us.

    I also assumed that Cancelo dig was aimed at me. I never called him great defensively , just that he's more of a RB than Cuadrado will ever be. You were ofcourse laughing off the rumours when we were linked to him and had Cuadrado at RB in all your hypothetical lineups. I guess the club must see something in Cancelo to bring a guy who actually starts at RB for his previous clubs and country than experimenting with a makeshift one like Cuadrado.

    Also, anyone that thinks this current SMS is twice the player Pjanic is cant be taken seriously, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vodka View Post
    pjanic, but they are exactly same type. and yeah, juve spent over 200m
    Except they're not. Kovacic is more of a B2B than a regista. He is good at transitioning from defense to attack and carry the ball forward. He's also better defensively and more agile.

    Pjanic has different qualities that makes him better.
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    SMS to my knowledge is done.
    Icardi they are working on; at this stage I believe that it will be very unlikely for Pipita to stay


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    Pjanič is a great player, but it's easy to see why people can be frustrated with him as the guy ranges from a ghostly liability to TOP3 mid in the world in his performances for Juve. Still, Kovacic, a guy who can't break the starting 11 of either RM or his country, is not a better player than Mire.
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    No way in hell Kovacic is better defensively or more agile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopanja View Post
    No way in hell Kovacic is better defensively or more agile.
    Then you havent seen much of Kovacic. His speed is one of his big assets.
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    SMS to my knowledge is done.
    Icardi they are working on; at this stage I believe that it will be very unlikely for Pipita to stay


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xperd View Post
    Then you havent seen much of Kovacic. His speed is one of his big assets.
    I've seen enough of him. He can run as fast as Odonkor for all I care; it doesn't make him more agile or better defensively than Pjanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopanja View Post
    I've seen enough of him. He can run as fast as Odonkor for all I care; it doesn't make him more agile or better defensively than Pjanic.
    You know nothing of him then. No point arguing with you.
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    SMS to my knowledge is done.
    Icardi they are working on; at this stage I believe that it will be very unlikely for Pipita to stay


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    Kovacic the same type as Pjanic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xperd View Post
    You know nothing of him then. No point arguing with you.
    Oh, you got me right here.

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    Doesn't take a lot to be more agile than Mire, and Kovacic certainly is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavluska View Post
    Like I said back in December:

    http://www.juventuz.com/threads/4323...=1#post5655610

    We had 100m+ to spend this summer. Just believe me next time mkay.

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    Who's better now, Kovacic or Pjanic?
    You are comparing two different players but overalll Pjanic is definitely better
    Kovacic is a great talent and you could see it right away when he played for Inter
    Real bought him and I thought it was a great piece of business but I was also surprised as Real didnt buy too many Serie A youngsters back then..
    Real turned him into a very good player - NOT WC YET...
    He is agile he defends way better than Pjanic (who his defensive aspect really lacks IMO)
    Pjanic is an organizer Kovacic is a B2B so its not easy to compare them (and not right to do it anyway)
    To say Kovacic would take a team and give them a real boost in quality - Nope (He will improve them but he wont be a real difference maker)
    As I see it Kovacic is a great player who can become WC but has yet to get there
    Pjanic is definitely WC as what he does not many can do
    Pjanic`s role is also more unique - There arent many great players in his role - The only ones I can think of are Verratti who rotates the field and the treatment table, Modric who is the goat of the organizers and please forgive me if I forget a player or two but the thing is there arent many
    Its way easier to find a good B2B..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAiDEViL View Post
    Doesn't take a lot to be more agile than Mire, and Kovacic certainly is.
    sure, yeah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orgut View Post
    You are comparing two different players but overalll Pjanic is definitely better
    Kovacic is a great talent and you could see it right away when he played for Inter
    Real bought him and I thought it was a great piece of business but I was also surprised as Real didnt buy too many Serie A youngsters back then..
    Real turned him into a very good player - NOT WC YET...
    He is agile he defends way better than Pjanic (who his defensive aspect really lacks IMO)
    Pjanic is an organizer Kovacic is a B2B so its not easy to compare them (and not right to do it anyway)
    To say Kovacic would take a team and give them a real boost in quality - Nope (He will improve them but he wont be a real difference maker)
    As I see it Kovacic is a great player who can become WC but has yet to get there
    Pjanic is definitely WC as what he does not many can do
    Pjanic`s role is also more unique - There arent many great players in his role - The only ones I can think of are Verratti who rotates the field and the treatment table, Modric who is the goat of the organizers and please forgive me if I forget a player or two but the thing is there arent many
    Its way easier to find a good B2B..
    I think modern footie in general is moving away from deep lying playmakers and many teams prefer having a DM like Nzonzi, Matic or Kante sitting deep, playing simple passes and covering lots of ground defensively so that other players get more freedom in attack.
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    What a bad signing Ronaldo is. He's so old.

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    New addition to the Juventus staff: Javier Santamaria. Spanish physio who has been at Real Madrid for the past 16 years & who has worked very closely with Cristiano Ronaldo since his arrival at Madrid. Was also dispatched to the Portuguese team in 2014. Benvenuto Javier. #GdS

    Does this mean no Foletti/Grani ?

    Who is the physio in Juventus' medical staff ?
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    SMS to my knowledge is done.
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    Juventus and Schalke 04 have enquired with Angers over the asking price for Rayan Aït-Nouri, the 17-year-old left-back, according to L’Équipe. AS Monaco have an €8m offer knocked back earlier this summer to land the French youth international, but now face competition if they seek to get the deal done.

    Who dat kid?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xperd View Post
    New addition to the Juventus staff: Javier Santamaria. Spanish physio who has been at Real Madrid for the past 16 years & who has worked very closely with Cristiano Ronaldo since his arrival at Madrid. Was also dispatched to the Portuguese team in 2014. Benvenuto Javier. #GdS

    Does this mean no Foletti/Grani ?

    Who is the physio in Juventus' medical staff ?
    finally we make some improvements in this area, about $#@!ing time
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    What a bad signing Ronaldo is. He's so old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tosh_rose View Post
    Juventus and Schalke 04 have enquired with Angers over the asking price for Rayan Aït-Nouri, the 17-year-old left-back, according to L’Équipe. AS Monaco have an €8m offer knocked back earlier this summer to land the French youth international, but now face competition if they seek to get the deal done.

    Who dat kid?
    Dunno but get him and make him our HG player in 3 years.

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    We need a Pogboom at this late stage, extra salt.

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