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    Ronaldo:
    La Liga: 4 in 13
    CL: 9 in 6

    How tf does that work lmao.

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    Couldn't Real Madrid be this garbage in the CL final lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afghan_juventus View Post
    Ronaldo:
    La Liga: 4 in 13
    CL: 9 in 6

    How tf does that work lmao.
    It's from couple of weeks ago but I think it is still valid.

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    meh CR7 could retire right now, he's achieved everything and more

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    Quote Originally Posted by YouVay View Post
    Couldn't Real Madrid be this garbage in the CL final lol
    could, if they were not playing us lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty View Post
    meh CR7 could retire right now, he's achieved everything and more
    He and Messi do not have a World Cup..................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afghan_juventus View Post
    He and Messi do not have a World Cup..................
    And I don't think either of them is going to win it, Messi's Argentina can't even win in SA while Ronaldo's Portugal needed some extreme luck and counterattacking to grease their way to European champions, not going to happen for them again any time soon I believe
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    Zidane, baggio etc single handedly dragged their countries to wc finals, but these supposedly 2 extraterrestrial footballers can't? Or is it actually their achievements were largerly due to their overpowered clubs? And thus their personal abilities are over rated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by napoleonic View Post
    Zidane, baggio etc single handedly dragged their countries to wc finals, but these supposedly 2 extraterrestrial footballers can't? Or is it actually their achievements were largerly due to their overpowered clubs? And thus their personal abilities are over rated?
    Messi did drag Argentina, no?
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    Dragged them to what exactly? Messi was largely irrelevant in the knockouts last time around, and Argentina made it to the final in spite of him, not because of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianconero81 View Post
    Dragged them to what exactly? Messi was largely irrelevant in the knockouts last time around, and Argentina made it to the final in spite of him, not because of him.
    TBF he did drag them out the gs. Though he was okay in the 16 and quarter and very poor in the semis and final and thats the most important part of the tournament.

    But if you are gonna say Argentina made it in spite of Messi than Portugal DEFINITELY made it in spite of Ronaldo in 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by napoleonic View Post
    Zidane, baggio etc single handedly dragged their countries to wc finals, but these supposedly 2 extraterrestrial footballers can't? Or is it actually their achievements were largerly due to their overpowered clubs? And thus their personal abilities are over rated?
    Yessir.

    The fact that niether has had a tournament at the level of Forlan 2010 says allot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbull View Post
    And I don't think either of them is going to win it, Messi's Argentina can't even win in SA while Ronaldo's Portugal needed some extreme luck and counterattacking to grease their way to European champions, not going to happen for them again any time soon I believe
    I think Argentina has a good chance at the next WC. But because their coach is Sampaoli not because they have Messi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afghan_juventus View Post
    TBF he did drag them out the gs. Though he was okay in the 16 and quarter and very poor in the semis and final and thats the most important part of the tournament.

    But if you are gonna say Argentina made it in spite of Messi than Portugal DEFINITELY made it in spite of Ronaldo in 2016.

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    Yessir.

    The fact that niether has had a tournament at the level of Forlan 2010 says allot.

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    I think Argentina has a good chance at the next WC. But because their coach is Sampaoli not because they have Messi.
    I'd go further and say that neither has had a tournament at the level of 2004 Milan Baroš
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    Barcelona sell Neymar and get Coutinho and Dembele for his money.

    We sell Pogba for 150 mil less and get $#@!ing Higuain WTF

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbull View Post
    I'd go further and say that neither has had a tournament at the level of 2004 Milan Baroš
    No no no stop it. Cristina dragged Portugal to a Euros win in 2016 by scoring in 2 games throughout the competition and playing 20 mins in the final. Greatest individual tourney in the history of football, absolutely $#@!s on Maradona 86.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afghan_juventus View Post
    Ronaldo:
    La Liga: 4 in 13
    CL: 9 in 6

    How tf does that work lmao.
    Look at the details.

    Real Madrid CL group:
    Tottenham
    Dortmund
    Apoel

    Now on paper it looks tricky, but Dortmund were not great this season and Apoel was always going to concede.
    Ronaldo scored 4 goals against Apoel, 3 against Dortmund who underperformed and sacked their manager midseason.

    Against Tottenham he scored penalty at home and late goal in 3-1 defeat at Wembley.


    Also in general Real show up for CL. Its easier to lift game for CL for them in terms of priorities.

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    Real Madrid I love this

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    18 games gone
    Madrid 4th
    5 points behind Valencia in 3rd
    1 point ahead of Villareal in 5th (game in hand)

    WHO THE $#@! WOULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS

    Wish I saw the whole game but thankfully caught the last 10 mins when Villareal scored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afghan_juventus View Post
    18 games gone
    Madrid 4th
    5 points behind Valencia in 3rd
    1 point ahead of Villareal in 5th (game in hand)

    WHO THE $#@! WOULD HAVE PREDICTED THIS

    Wish I saw the whole game but thankfully caught the last 10 mins when Villareal scored.
    Their "defending" when they conceded, you should look forward to see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephan View Post
    Look at the details.

    Real Madrid CL group:
    Tottenham
    Dortmund
    Apoel

    Now on paper it looks tricky, but Dortmund were not great this season and Apoel was always going to concede.
    Ronaldo scored 4 goals against Apoel, 3 against Dortmund who underperformed and sacked their manager midseason.

    Against Tottenham he scored penalty at home and late goal in 3-1 defeat at Wembley.


    Also in general Real show up for CL. Its easier to lift game for CL for them in terms of priorities.
    But Dortmund would still finish around 6th in La Liga and Apoel midtable. He's facing the chump sides in La Liga weekly and still not scoring. Weird thing going with the Portuguese duo of Ronalod and Milans guy Andre Silva.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BayernFan View Post
    Their "defending" when they conceded, you should look forward to see it.
    Casemiero, Kroos, and Modric nowhere to be found on that counter

    Man but that chip by Pablo Fornals was a beauty.

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    Kroos and defending is not an option actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianconero81 View Post
    Dragged them to what exactly? Messi was largely irrelevant in the knockouts last time around, and Argentina made it to the final in spite of him, not because of him.
    How was Zidane more relevant?
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    Ffs France had a good team in 98. Thuram, Desaily, Pires, Deschamps, Vieira, Lizarazu. Trez and Henry were young but part of squad.

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