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    Watched the whole game for a second time now.

    Atalanta played quite well.

    Giasperini is really doing something with that team and considering how good they have been this year, it was not an easy match for us.

    They play positive, pressing, attacking football, and it especially showed in the first 20 minutes of the 1st half ,where they pressed us really high. They almost had the same amount of possession as us, which shows that they came to play, not defend.

    Positives:

    Passing/movement:
    good offensive understanding and link up play. Its really starting to show now: combinations between pjanic and the strikers (especially dybala) is getting more and more promising.

    Marchisio looks to be back at his best: he Bossed that midfield like a real Lieutenant. Only needs to get his Rifle shooting aim back and were in for another great season from him.

    Wingplay:
    Our backs were active and positive, the way we like them. I can see the 3-5-2 being a deadly formation once we reach full potential and injured players recover.

    Negatives:

    Mentality If there is one thing i feel we need to improve, its the way we finish games: too often the lack of concentration makes us concede stupid goals, like the game against Lyon. Its a mentality thing, and needs to be fixed as soon as possible, especially in Champions League as teams are deadly to these sort of slip ups.

    This however, was a cup match so i can understand that they slacked off a bit.

    Hernanes: No comment.

    all in all , entertaining game and job well done.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    Dude, don't copy me.

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    It makes more sense to play Cuadrado as treq and Dybala as a ss with Mandžukić as a cf. Like this:


    Dybala - Mandžukić

    Cuadrado
    It wasn't . So highlights tomorrow:
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    Probably our best game so far in terms of offensive performance especially that it was against decent opposition. Finally we see interesting combinations and good build up instead of individuals going solo and trying to improvise something.

    I dont care that the defense was leaky, we have no problems getting back into good defensive shape. Collective attacking movements and passing is what needed a big improvement and maybe today was a sign of that beginning to happen.
    Hist: 1 decent starter, 1 worldclass, 1 bench, 2 out
    Post Ironic: 0 World class 2 decent-good starters. 1 bench player.
    DelPiero84: 3 world class, 2 bench.
    Zizinho: 2 world class, 1 very good starter and the rest for bench.
    Quetzalcoatl: 1 world class, 1 good starter, 2 bench and Staruro out.
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    forgot this match was on
    Juve Fino Alla Fine!

    Quote Originally Posted by Badass Vidal/Marcelo View Post
    Vucinic he once told Arturo that he will fuck Arturo mother and sister and Arturo was mad, but then he saw that Mirko tells that to everyone and he even told his twin brother that he will fuck his mother and sister. That is something Mirko say all the time and now nobody is angry with Mirko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hist View Post
    Probably our best game so far in terms of offensive performance especially that it was against decent opposition. Finally we see interesting combinations and good build up instead of individuals going solo and trying to improvise something.

    I dont care that the defense was leaky, we have no problems getting back into good defensive shape. Collective attacking movements and passing is what needed a big improvement and maybe today was a sign of that beginning to happen.
    the goal leak was mainly due to juve switching off / putting their foot off the gas ... if we gave our full concentration it would've been a clean sheet. although konko's goal was a rather freaky one
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    ''Max Allegri again blasted Juventus for “taking our foot off the gas” during a 3-2 Coppa Italia win over Atalanta. “It keeps happening.”

    The Bianconeri seemed to be home and dry in the Round of 16 fixture at 2-0 after 34 minutes, but had to cling on under pressure in the final stages.

    “It was a good performance from both teams,” the Coach told Rai Sport.

    “Unfortunately we kind of stopped playing and at the end really ran a huge risk of conceding a third goal. At that stage it would’ve made qualification really tough, as Atalanta found confidence and were pouring forward.

    “This type of match does us good, because we have to learn that the game isn’t over until the end and we’ve got to avoid these errors.

    “I can understand the opposition being fired up, but I won’t accept us taking our foot off the gas. Tonight we ran a really big risk. The games aren’t over until the final whistle.

    “We need to get it into our heads that you attack when it’s time to attack, then you defend when it’s time to defend. We’ve got to reflect, because this seems to happen to us a lot now, at least once a month.

    “When the game looks like it’s safe, we have to keep a clean sheet. We defended badly on the goals, but other than those we didn’t really need tough saves. Atalanta had pushed forward, but if we defended in an organised and determined fashion, we wouldn’t have allowed them to score.”

    Marko Pjaca made his comeback after three months out with a fracture.

    “He had 15 minutes tonight and we’ll see how he trains. He returned after 100 days out, he’s young and tonight learned that it’s tough to play in Italy.”

    Before the match, Juve director Beppe Marotta confirmed they are considering Schalke 04 left-back Sead Kolasinac, so will he arrive in January or at the end of the season?

    “At the moment we’ve got Patrice Evra, so it’s unlikely we’ll have someone new in,” was Allegri’s response.

    Evra has been dropped from the squad for the last two competitive games while he decides on the Valencia offer.''
    Jesus christ you annoying kunt, take some fukkin blame for once. It's Allegri who takes the momentum out of the game by taking off ALL the creative players and then puts in ALL the defensive players he possibly can. Switching Dybala, Pjanic and Marchisio (the trio that started almost each and every attack) to Pjaca, Sturaro and Bonucci isn't going to keep the attacking momentum up. And before the usual wankers start calling this whining since we won, it's constructive criticism. The first 75 minutes was absolutely beautiful, and I can't remember us playing such attractive and boldly attacking football in a long time. It all flowed really well. But Allegri has a huge blame on himself for allowing such a situation where the team takes the foot off the gas and has to defend a 1 goal lead. Sturaro, Rincon, Hernanes, Bonucci, Rugani, Asamoah, Lichst, Barzagli..... that's effectively 8 defenders playing behind the ball since none of those are good creative players and the opposition is keeping pressure. It was up to recently heavily injured Pjaca to kick start all attacks alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by il brutto View Post
    You are way off. Too tired to go over how it works, night.

    Don't bother.I understood your "point" already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoSo View Post
    forgot this match was on
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    you missed quite an entertaining match, btw

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    Does anybody have a link to a full game? They didn't uploaded it on fullmatchesandshows for some reason.

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    I wonder if Gasperini can do well in a proper top or around top team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s4tch View Post
    fake
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    you missed quite an entertaining match, btw
    oh well, only coppa italia
    Juve Fino Alla Fine!

    Quote Originally Posted by Badass Vidal/Marcelo View Post
    Vucinic he once told Arturo that he will fuck Arturo mother and sister and Arturo was mad, but then he saw that Mirko tells that to everyone and he even told his twin brother that he will fuck his mother and sister. That is something Mirko say all the time and now nobody is angry with Mirko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZoSo View Post
    oh well, only coppa italia
    Quote Originally Posted by Cronios View Post
    If i see him now, i will kiss his left cheek for Pjanic, his right cheek for Benatia and prolly a french kiss for Higuain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by spurdo View Post
    Jesus christ you annoying kunt, take some fukkin blame for once. It's Allegri who takes the momentum out of the game by taking off ALL the creative players and then puts in ALL the defensive players he possibly can. Switching Dybala, Pjanic and Marchisio (the trio that started almost each and every attack) to Pjaca, Sturaro and Bonucci isn't going to keep the attacking momentum up. And before the usual wankers start calling this whining since we won, it's constructive criticism. The first 75 minutes was absolutely beautiful, and I can't remember us playing such attractive and boldly attacking football in a long time. It all flowed really well. But Allegri has a huge blame on himself for allowing such a situation where the team takes the foot off the gas and has to defend a 1 goal lead. Sturaro, Rincon, Hernanes, Bonucci, Rugani, Asamoah, Lichst, Barzagli..... that's effectively 8 defenders playing behind the ball since none of those are good creative players and the opposition is keeping pressure. It was up to recently heavily injured Pjaca to kick start all attacks alone.
    yes its true he switched to a defensive strategy but that doesn't mean those defenders should get complacent. Usually if you decide to protect a lead by parking the bus you park the $#@!ing bus you dont sit around and let the opposition tear you apart. We leaked those goals when our whole strategy was to shut everything out. This is good reason to be pissed. Its the equivalent of explicitly going all out attack and creating zero chances regardless of whether or not all out attack is the right strategy in that stage of the game.
    Hist: 1 decent starter, 1 worldclass, 1 bench, 2 out
    Post Ironic: 0 World class 2 decent-good starters. 1 bench player.
    DelPiero84: 3 world class, 2 bench.
    Zizinho: 2 world class, 1 very good starter and the rest for bench.
    Quetzalcoatl: 1 world class, 1 good starter, 2 bench and Staruro out.
    Alex Juventino: 2 World Class, 2 decent starters and 1 bench
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Quazis View Post
    Does anybody have a link to a full game? They didn't uploaded it on fullmatchesandshows for some reason.

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    try here:
    http://forum.rojadirecta.es/showthre...nta-11-01-2017

    it's not streaming, but better than nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Quazis View Post
    Does anybody have a link to a full game? They didn't uploaded it on fullmatchesandshows for some reason.

    Wysłane z mojego FRD-L09 przy użyciu Tapatalka
    http://footballorgin.com/coppa-itali...-match-replay/

    Here you go lad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Signora Omicidi View Post
    I really liked what I saw from Spinazzola. I hope we go for him


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    Quote Originally Posted by JCK View Post
    Stated off great and made it look too easy. We missed tons of chances on the way in the first. Some changes with the weekend fixture in thought, some complacency and we put Atalanta back in the game. I am not bothered that we stepped off the gas and we behaved like we did in the second, it only made the match even more entertaining. Apart from the monster performance from Mandzukic, I was mostly impressed by Lichtsteiner who played a great game, he took me two or three years back. Asamoah at the left side is a refreshing option that has just appeared and the farther we play Pjanic up the pitch the better he delivers. Last but not least, Dybala what a player!

    Neto 6

    Asamoah 6.5
    Rugani 6.5
    Barzagli 6,5
    Lichtsteiner 6.5

    Rincon 6.5
    Hernanes 6
    Marchisio 7
    Pjanic 7.5

    Mandzukic 8.5
    Dybala 8

    Sturaro 6
    Pjaca 6
    Bonucci N.R
    I love when you do player ratings. Kudos to you, sir. More members should do this, especially @Dominic.

    My ratings will follow, I am now watching 2nd half.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valerio. View Post
    How can you give Hernanes a 6?!?! he was so baaaaaaaaaaad
    6 is not a high rating, dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCK View Post
    Let's see your ratings.
    Exactly.

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    Btw, why no Cuadrado in this match?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valerio. View Post
    How can you give Hernanes a 6?!?! he was so baaaaaaaaaaad
    Hernanes wasn't half as bad as you say he was.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dino_mk View Post
    R u drunk?
    Are you? He was nothing special.

    Here are my ratings:

    Neto 6
    Lichtsteiner 7
    Barzagli 6.5
    Rugani 6
    Asamoah 5.5
    Rincon 6
    Hernanes 6
    Marchisio 6.5
    Pjanić 7
    Dybala 7.5 MOM
    Mandžukić 7
    Sturaro 6
    Pjaca 5.5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianconero_Aus View Post
    Juve Fino Alla Fine!

    Quote Originally Posted by Badass Vidal/Marcelo View Post
    Vucinic he once told Arturo that he will fuck Arturo mother and sister and Arturo was mad, but then he saw that Mirko tells that to everyone and he even told his twin brother that he will fuck his mother and sister. That is something Mirko say all the time and now nobody is angry with Mirko.

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    Fun fact: last night I fell asleep during the match. Too much
    Forza Ferrari!

    Forza Juventus!

    Allez Les Blues!

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    @Klin We are playing vs AC Milan in quarterfinal in Turin.
    Forza Ferrari!

    Forza Juventus!

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    February 25-th.A real,real time for a revenge.

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