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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianconero81 View Post
    Clearly his agent hasn't heard of Verratti, Belotti, and Bernardeschi.
    Dont rate Belotti that much while Bernardeschi is ok but nothing more..

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    Donnarumma, Romagnoli and Rugani are the biggest Italian talents at the moment. Verratti isn't a talent, but worldclass and young indeed.
    although Donnarumma is not as good as the hype suggest but if you consider his performance with his age then he is definitely amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by italiacalcio10 View Post
    Surprisingly, there is a lot of granularity.
    You can find statistics on:
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    It isn't perfect, but there is a surprising amount of granularity!

    You can even strip out crosses and free kicks.

    If that Bottler of a Brazilian Hernanes finished as high up as 76th place, your little experiment must be seriously flawed, mr professor.

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    One of the Italian newspapers mentioned we want Kasper Dolberg?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hustini View Post
    One of the Italian newspapers mentioned we want Kasper Dolberg?
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    Italian media with the constant and incessant BS about Verratti to Inter. I mean, why the $#@! would he go there? They are highly unlikely to be in the CL next season, and he is a Juventino to boot. Moreover, we can better any offer they make, dirty Chinese dimsum money or not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianconero81 View Post
    Italian media with the constant and incessant BS about Verratti to Inter. I mean, why the $#@! would he go there? They are highly unlikely to be in the CL next season, and he is a Juventino to boot. Moreover, we can better any offer they make, dirty Chinese dimsum money or not!
    No we can't. If you don't want Dybala to be sold, you might as well stop dreaming about this transfer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hustini View Post
    One of the Italian newspapers mentioned we want Kasper Dolberg?
    Cant read this name without chanting Dolberg... Dolberg...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xperd View Post
    No we can't. If you don't want Dybala to be sold, you might as well stop dreaming about this transfer.
    And Inter can? Yes, we can. I refuse to believe that if we reach revenues close to 400 Million Euros, we can't afford an 80 million Euro transfer without sacrificing a big name. We have made progress over the past few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianconero81 View Post
    And Inter can? Yes, we can. I refuse to believe that if we reach revenues close to 400 Million Euros, we can't afford an 80 million Euro transfer without sacrificing a big name. We have made progress over the past few years.
    we definitely can afford such signings now. Verratti ain't happening tho, not because we can't afford him and the likes of inter can lol, but because PSG will refuse to sell whatever offer you throw at them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zizinho View Post
    we definitely can afford such signings now. Verratti ain't happening tho, not because we can't afford him and the likes of inter can lol, but because PSG will refuse to sell whatever offer you throw at them.

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    Exactly. PSG will make it as difficult as possible for us to sign a squad player from them, let alone Verratti. It's almost impossible but I still hope we give it a go this summer.
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    I was thinking summer of 2018, right before the World Cup. I feel Verratti will want to stay one more season, and give winning the CL with PSG a final try next season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianconero81 View Post
    And Inter can? Yes, we can. I refuse to believe that if we reach revenues close to 400 Million Euros, we can't afford an 80 million Euro transfer without sacrificing a big name. We have made progress over the past few years.
    We can and we will.

    When Real had 400mln revenues they signed Ronaldo, Kaka and Benzema in one window.

    But I guess our 400mln don't have as much value.

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    A certain east London star AM wants to leave his club badly and is in stand off with the club. Beppe put in a cheeky bid per favore

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    Payet would be great. I dont know how we could use him, not sure how he would fit in.

    But Would still welcome him with open arms if he came here thoe'
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    We play with AM more and more past month so can be used there. Or even SS. Would nice signing for any team really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0ker View Post
    We can and we will.

    When Real had 400mln revenues they signed Ronaldo, Kaka and Benzema in one window.

    But I guess our 400mln don't have as much value.
    Well in those days 400mln did buy many more things than it does now. And with a few teams having a much higher revenue competition IS deadly.

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    Payet is a good signing for any team, but we still in need for more defensive minded mid. Yesterday when Marchisio and El General played as side midfielders it was really great to watch, they covered space, tackled, created rhythm. But Claudio is vital as DM for us and Sami is not that dynamic Imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robee View Post
    Well in those days 400mln did buy many more things than it does now. And with a few teams having a much higher revenue competition IS deadly.
    Plus higher the revenue, higher will be our wage bill, higher will be our operating costs. We have reached a point now where we can afford to give big salaries to our players plus make those €30- €40M signings which we normally weren't able to afford in the past. I just don't think we have reached a point yet where we can make a Real-esque signing every year though not without selling one of your stars of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xperd View Post
    No we can't. If you don't want Dybala to be sold, you might as well stop dreaming about this transfer.
    Agree, though the only way this might be possible is if we reach a CL final.

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    As for that whole 400mln etc about ronaldo kaka, then they pulled it off from a loan and of course with a risk. We want to maintain stability as at the end of the day we cant rely on Exor to bankrole us out unlike Real Madrid who have a more firm shoulder to lean on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hustini View Post
    One of the Italian newspapers mentioned we want Kasper Dolberg?
    reminds me of the days when Marchisio used to be called casper. A casper in midfield and a kasper up front
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    Juventus & Napoli are interested in Ajax striker Kasper Dolberg (19), according to Corsport.
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