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View Poll Results: How many Goals will Pipita score this season in all comp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Post Ironic View Post
    And I rate Lewandowski over Higgy, but acting like it's some vast margin is pretty damn laughable.
    I never said its a vast margin, where do you get that from ?

    I said 2-3 times now that i rate Higuain

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    Quote Originally Posted by BayernFan View Post
    He never did but he lead Dortmund to a CL final
    And lost... according to the geniuses here, losing a CL final is the exact same thing as going out in the group stage. So colour me unimpressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BayernFan View Post
    I never said its a vast margin, where do you get that from ?

    I said 2-3 times now that i rate Higuain
    That wasn't in reference to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Post Ironic View Post
    Can someone remind of the season that Lewandowski led Bayern to a CL title? I seem to have forgotten it...
    It's kinda funny that we are lucky to have the striker who actually did this
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    Absolute legend and pure worldclass. A top player for generations to remember.

    He tried it with us again but Juventus DNA was stronger

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    Quote Originally Posted by Post Ironic View Post
    And lost... according to the geniuses here, losing a CL final is the exact same thing as going out in the group stage. So colour me unimpressed.
    Winning a CL or not does not measure how great a player you are imo. Winning a CL is so freaking hard and everything has to click in the right moments for you to win it

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgorTudor View Post
    It's kinda funny that we are lucky have the striker who did
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    Absolute legend and pure worldclass. A top player for generations to remember
    I'd prefer Morata, Mandzu, Dybala, Bernadeschi as our forwards to what we have now.
    It's been a prevalent notion. Fallen sparks. Fragments of vessels broken at the Creation. And someday, somehow, before the end, a gathering back to home. A messenger from the Kingdom, arriving at the last moment. But I tell you there is no such message, no such home -- only the millions of last moments . . . nothing more. Our history is an aggregate of last moments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgorTudor View Post
    It's kinda funny that we are lucky to have the striker who actually did this
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    Absolute legend and pure worldclass. A top player for generations to remember.

    He tried it with us again but Juventus DNA was stronger
    Mandzukic is pure class. He is an absolute asshole often, but cant take away from him that he is a big game player

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    Its interesting how different players are viewed. So Higuain is this huge choker who doesnt win major tournaments. Well, Lewandowski hasnt played in CL final since left Dortmund. 3 years now at Bayern no CL.Im not going to compare the national teams cause that would be unfair, but so far neither player has won the CL. And both players are scoring for fun in their domestic leagues.

    Dont get me wrong, Lewndowski is one of the best no 9s but you can actually make a case he and Higuain are more similar than people say. Higuain did assist our goal in the final, and i wouldnt blame Higuain on our loss or not win. Yes the money spent was huge but there were other players who you can also criticize, likewise you could say Bayern hasnt reached CL final since Lewa went there but its not really only his fault or is it now. I think both players contribute to team play. Higuain has had games where he assists another player and Lewandowski has had games where he assists some other player ("vision").

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    Quote Originally Posted by BayernFan View Post
    Well im trying to give you my opinion why he is better/more complete than Higuain

    Lewandowski simply got the full package - Higuain not

    at least thats how i see it
    And I don't agree, they both have the same style, not the fastest or trickiest outside the occasional moves, mainly rely on teams service, very good at positioning and strong finishers. Again I don't see what Lewa's more complete at.

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    This $#@!, in his first season for Juve, scored 32 goals.

    In the world of Messi and Ronaldo, this is nothing. In the world of Juventus, this was the third best season record in the club's history. The two times when a Juve player scored more than Higuain in one season were like 100 years ago (83 and 91 years ago), when matches finished 9:6 or 8:7.

    And he did this a year after he set an all time capocannoniere record.

    The dude is doing his job, and more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    This $#@!, in his first season for Juve, scored 32 goals.

    In the world of Messi and Ronaldo, this is nothing. In the world of Juventus, this was the third best season record in the club's history. The two times when a Juve player scored more than Higuain in one season were like 100 years ago (83 and 91 years ago), when matches finished 9:6 or 8:7.

    And he did this a year after he set an all time capocannoniere record.

    The dude is doing his job, and more.
    My favourite time frame was when he scored a brace against Chievo, then sucked $#@! against barca, then scored a brace against Pescara, then proceded to suck more $#@! against Barca.

    4 goals in 4 games tho. Worldclass player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B3N View Post
    Only a bored tuzer would argue against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    This $#@!, in his first season for Juve, scored 32 goals.

    In the world of Messi and Ronaldo, this is nothing. In the world of Juventus, this was the third best season record in the club's history. The two times when a Juve player scored more than Higuain in one season were like 100 years ago (83 and 91 years ago), when matches finished 9:6 or 8:7.

    And he did this a year after he set an all time capocannoniere record.

    The dude is doing his job, and more.
















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    We gonna compare CL stats again?

    It's not a real competition though.. @piotrr's toyboy easily wins.
    because he doesn't choke at the big stage
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    Quote Originally Posted by lgorTudor View Post
    My favourite time frame was when he scored a brace against Chievo, then sucked $#@! against barca, then scored a brace against Pescara, then proceded to suck more $#@! against Barca.

    4 goals in 4 games tho. Worldclass player.
    No. The time frame you can't get over is from minute 46 to minute 90 in the CL final. Hurts the rest of us too. Clouds our judgement. Some find it easier to blame an individual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    This $#@!, in his first season for Juve, scored 32 goals.

    In the world of Messi and Ronaldo, this is nothing. In the world of Juventus, this was the third best season record in the club's history. The two times when a Juve player scored more than Higuain in one season were like 100 years ago (83 and 91 years ago), when matches finished 9:6 or 8:7.

    And he did this a year after he set an all time capocannoniere record.

    The dude is doing his job, and more.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    No. The time frame you can't get over is from minute 46 to minute 90 in the CL final. Hurts the rest of us too. Clouds our judgement. Some find it easier to blame an individual.
    This is exactly it, Alen. Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    This $#@!, in his first season for Juve, scored 32 goals.

    In the world of Messi and Ronaldo, this is nothing. In the world of Juventus, this was the third best season record in the club's history. The two times when a Juve player scored more than Higuain in one season were like 100 years ago (83 and 91 years ago), when matches finished 9:6 or 8:7.

    And he did this a year after he set an all time capocannoniere record.

    The dude is doing his job, and more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stephan View Post
    Its interesting how different players are viewed. So Higuain is this huge choker who doesnt win major tournaments. Well, Lewandowski hasnt played in CL final since left Dortmund. 3 years now at Bayern no CL.Im not going to compare the national teams cause that would be unfair, but so far neither player has won the CL. And both players are scoring for fun in their domestic leagues.

    Dont get me wrong, Lewndowski is one of the best no 9s but you can actually make a case he and Higuain are more similar than people say. Higuain did assist our goal in the final, and i wouldnt blame Higuain on our loss or not win. Yes the money spent was huge but there were other players who you can also criticize, likewise you could say Bayern hasnt reached CL final since Lewa went there but its not really only his fault or is it now. I think both players contribute to team play. Higuain has had games where he assists another player and Lewandowski has had games where he assists some other player ("vision").
    Lewa has 40 goals in 61 apps in the CL. Higuaín is far from being as good in Europe.
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    Stats indicate that Higuain is a non factor in the CL, and he's also a non factor for his country. He's a wonderful striker and a WC player in his position, but let's not exaggerate his accomplishments simply because he plays for us.
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