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    Quote Originally Posted by Hist View Post
    he can go to arsenal and get spanked by Conte for the second time.
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    these coaches ain't loyal.
    Damn, who knew our coaches were the ones that were the least loyal?

    There is only one loyal group these days and its the Italian players. Those guys don't give a $#@! about the EPL.

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    Things that wont change in 2017

    Hist sucking conte's $#@! while badass tends for the balls
    Hydde bashing allegri who'll keep getting results
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    Juventus winning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacheryah View Post
    Things that wont change in 2017

    Hist sucking conte's $#@! while badass tends for the balls
    Hydde bashing allegri who'll keep getting results
    Jacks depression
    Juventus winning
    Me not being able to understand and decipher football tactics.
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    If i see him now, i will kiss his left cheek for Pjanic, his right cheek for Benatia and prolly a french kiss for Higuain!

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    What if Allegri leaves this summer and Pep comes because he fails to impress at City(doesn't win the league)? I could see that happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1251alex View Post
    What if Allegri leaves this summer and Pep comes because he fails to impress at City(doesn't win the league)? I could see that happening.
    Then we should stay away from Pep because he's a terrible coach. Quite easy question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dostoevsky View Post
    Then we should stay away from Pep because he's a terrible coach. Quite easy question.
    Max was a terrible coach before signing for us. Haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1251alex View Post
    Max was a terrible coach before signing for us. Haha.
    Good point.

    However I could say he was decent on a good day. Pep on the other hand makes me want to vomit The guy is a choker. He failed to impress so many times it's crazy.

    I'd seriously take a half of Allegri over that guy.
    Pirlo has no equal in Europe, Vidal is a champion. And Marchisio, though little noticed, when he is one hundred per cent [he too] is a champion.
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    If we have a chance to get Pep and Allegri leaves, we should. Although, we should expect for big changes if that happens, both due to Pep's ability to lure players, and the fact that he moves around players in traditional positions.

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    We should do everything we can to make the best coach in the world stay at Juve
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dostoevsky View Post
    Good point.

    However I could say he was decent on a good day. Pep on the other hand makes me want to vomit The guy is a choker. He failed to impress so many times it's crazy.

    I'd seriously take a half of Allegri over that guy.
    Pep's success has everything to do with his team. To play the Pep style you need a world class midfield. City doesn't have a world class midfield. And Bayern was quite dominant, but the team still had holes. Pep's Bayern annihilated most teams, but would occasionally get beaten by other heavyweight giants, which is expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by italiacalcio10 View Post
    Pep's success has everything to do with his team. To play the Pep style you need a world class midfield. City doesn't have a world class midfield. And Bayern was quite dominant, but the team still had holes. Pep's Bayern annihilated most teams, but would occasionally get beaten by other heavyweight giants, which is expected.
    Fernandinho, Silva, De Bruyne? Fernando, Yaya, GŁndogan as backups?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hist View Post
    Because of how much he would cost or because of his playing style?
    both, and also because the players he would need to suit his style will not be met by marotta and co and there for he is already destined to fail at Juve.

    I mean can you seriously imagine him trying to achieve what he wants with the likes of Sturaro, hernanes, rincon in the team? I don't think so, he can't even show much with his current man city midfield which is far better in terms of like for like quality than our own
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    Pep

    How come some still haven't figured out he's a fraud.

    Like Max would do any worse than him with that City team he has available.
    He'd have less posession (god forbid ) though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dostoevsky View Post
    Good point.

    However I could say he was decent on a good day. Pep on the other hand makes me want to vomit The guy is a choker. He failed to impress so many times it's crazy.

    I'd seriously take a half of Allegri over that guy.


    Imagine the meltdowns after those 70% possession losses in the Championsleague
    That douche is cancer, he and his style of football. Both disgusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zizinho View Post
    Fernandinho, Silva, De Bruyne? Fernando, Yaya, GŁndogan as backups?
    Silva and De Bruyne are better off in very offensive roles and often play either up high in 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. They are not very good defensively. Fernandinho is no world beater. Pep's previous midfielders were much better at ball retention and in general were more talented closer to midfield rather than closer to the front line. Also the backline was much better in distribution.

    Thiago, Vidal, Lahm, Martinez, Alonso.
    Boateng, Alaba, Lahm, Bernat etc

    Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets
    Pique, Alves etc

    The city team just lacks that ability on the backline and in the centre of the park, which is why we have seen the likes of Kolarov at centreback. At the problem is that the premier league is more competitive than the Bundesliga with 2-3 more title viable teams (Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea).

    Simply put: Pep's current team isn't effective for his playing style, and lacks the quality of his previous teams. And the step of competition makes it even more difficult. But this is typical EPL problems...buy the expensive attacking midfielder, strikers and most importantly...WINGERS (The EPL has this obsession with offensive wingers, and it is to the detriment of the league), and neglect the centre of the pitch.

    When Pep has a team perfect for his style, it is scary dominant, but if he doesn't, the team will have lots of holes. I agree that an Italian coach would do better with the current city side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by italiacalcio10 View Post
    Silva and De Bruyne are better off in very offensive roles and often play either up high in 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1. They are not very good defensively. Fernandinho is no world beater. Pep's previous midfielders were much better at ball retention and in general were more talented closer to midfield rather than closer to the front line. Also the backline was much better in distribution.

    Thiago, Vidal, Lahm, Martinez, Alonso.
    Boateng, Alaba, Lahm, Bernat etc

    Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets
    Pique, Alves etc

    The city team just lacks that ability on the backline and in the centre of the park, which is why we have seen the likes of Kolarov at centreback. At the problem is that the premier league is more competitive than the Bundesliga with 2-3 more title viable teams (Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea).

    Simply put: Pep's current team isn't effective for his playing style, and lacks the quality of his previous teams. And the step of competition makes it even more difficult. But this is typical EPL problems...buy the expensive attacking midfielder, strikers and most importantly...WINGERS (The EPL has this obsession with offensive wingers, and it is to the detriment of the league), and neglect the centre of the pitch.

    When Pep has a team perfect for his style, it is scary dominant, but if he doesn't, the team will have lots of holes. I agree that an Italian coach would do better with the current city side.
    wtf happened to my post...

    this i agree with. but shouldnt the best coach in the world be able to win with something different than a top3 team in the world? shouldnt he be able to adjust his system to the players he has at his disposal (he already failed at this in Bayern)? so far this season Conte is schooling his overrated ass and hopefully his dream of winning all the major leagues will be over soon when he gets kicked out of Citeh
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    Quote Originally Posted by zizinho View Post
    wtf happened to my post...

    this i agree with. but shouldnt the best coach in the world be able to win with something different than a top3 team in the world? shouldnt he be able to adjust his system to the players he has at his disposal (he already failed at this in Bayern)? so far this season Conte is schooling his overrated ass and hopefully his dream of winning all the major leagues will be over soon when he gets kicked out of Citeh
    Definitely agree. You put him in Serie B, he could get schooled, but maybe not to the same extent as in the Championship because at least the players in Serie B know the meaning of the word tactics.
    Pep needs a specific team to succeed. It doesn't even have to be the best team in the world. It just needs players world class at ball retention, and passing. But also, enough stamina to press effectively, and competence with respect to creativity in the final third, goalscoring ability, and distribution from the back third. This City team is extremely mediocre in all aspects except quality in the final third (creativity and goal scoring).

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    Quote Originally Posted by zizinho View Post
    We should do everything we can to make the best coach in the world stay at Juve
    Quote Originally Posted by Cronios View Post
    If i see him now, i will kiss his left cheek for Pjanic, his right cheek for Benatia and prolly a french kiss for Higuain!

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    Best coach in the World? Now there's a hyperbolic statement. Allegri is a very good coach, but best in the world? Faaaak No!
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