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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    we're not there until we keep our best players and top ones on top of that + have the best possible coaches/trainers.
    Exactly, unfortunately this attitude stems from the top. I don't blame Allegri considering he's forced to have his best players leave each season. Fact is the rest of Europe has caught up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAiDEViL View Post
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    Was only a matter of time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark View Post
    we're not there until we keep our best players and top ones on top of that + have the best possible coaches/trainers.
    And we will most likely not get there in the foreseeable future
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    Football is one cruel sport. We've gotten so close to have the CL a few times and it now feels like we're quite far from winning it in near future

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordoDeCentral View Post
    Was only a matter of time

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    And we will most likely not get there in the foreseeable future
    it's sad but what can we do. They have the money but 99% of the time never wanted to add a little extra to get us there.
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    50/50 with the 5th best team in the EPL... yeah thats bad.
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    He's not wrong, sadly.

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    it's true.

    it's not like we drew 2-2 with stoke for ffs. this is a good team. also we are missing 3 very important players

    but i do feel we are out already. everyone talks about matuidi, but it's cuadrado that this team needs the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lion View Post
    it's true.

    it's not like we drew 2-2 with stoke for ffs. this is a good team. also we are missing 3 very important players

    but i do feel we are out already. everyone talks about matuidi, but it's cuadrado that this team needs the most.
    D Costa is better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle View Post
    D Costa is better
    he's good.

    but cuadrado is clutch in these types of games. he's perfect for his defensive approach, and he's great counter and able to hold ball. which is what this team needs to get higgy and mandzukic in attacking positions.

    if i was allegri, i'd consider switcing AS to LW and asa as lob and costa as RW. berna is too soft.
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    The stamina levels of this team are absolutely horrible.

    We threw away a 2-0 lead against Bayern and lost 4-2 because we were tired
    We got trashed in the CL final against Madrid because we got tired
    We ran out of gas against Barcelona when we lost 3-0
    We ran out of gas today against Spurs in the second half

    That’s what happens when you only have 35% possession in these games. Our players get tired of chasing the ball and then bunker in their own half before we inevitably concede.

    The most damming thing is that it doesn’t matter what kind of midfield we play, we always suffer from this same problem. We only had 39% possession in the 2015 final, and that was with MVPP.

    How we play in every big game:

    1. We press early on
    2. We can’t keep the ball
    3. We get tired
    4. We bunker in our own half
    5. We concede

    This is a fundamental problem of this team, and IMO this is not something that will change unless bring in a new coach; someone with different coaching methods and football philosophy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedved96 View Post
    The stamina levels of this team are absolutely horrible.

    We threw away a 2-0 lead against Bayern and lost 4-2 because we were tired
    We got trashed in the CL final against Madrid because we got tired
    We ran out of gas against Barcelona when we lost 3-0
    We ran out of gas today against Spurs in the second half

    That’s what happens when you only have 35% possession in these games. Our players get tired of chasing the ball and then bunker in their own half before we inevitably concede.

    The most damming thing is that it doesn’t matter what kind of midfield we play, we always suffer from this same problem. We only had 39% possession in the 2015 final, and that was with MVPP.

    How we play in every big game:

    1. We press early on
    2. We can’t keep the ball
    3. We get tired
    4. We bunker in our own half
    5. We concede

    This is a fundamental problem of this team, and IMO this is not something that will change unless bring in a new coach; someone with different coaching methods and football philosophy.
    Competely agree. I am one wjo enjoys good football but also not one to care about sarri style or tiki taka. This team has players to play football, why bother buying players like costa berna dybala cuadrado pjanic and play in a ball in the centre of our own half. They need more of the ball then a fraction of the 30 odd% of possession we get in these games like you mentioned. I know we tend to play counter in these type of games but that to me was just way to defensive. Allegris ability to change the formation to change the game into our favour is there for all to see, Im grateful hes not stubborn and one dimensional but he needs to improve technically because tactics lost this game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badass Dybala View Post
    Where was your saviour? Go eat humble pie you unbearable fool and take your beloved khedira with you

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    All talk... it a disgusting that he can't seem to take responsibility for the teams performance after those 10 mins
    Go take your meds and go to sleep.
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    If i see him now, i will kiss his left cheek for Pjanic, his right cheek for Benatia and prolly a french kiss for Higuain!

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    Poor Euromaxx needs another CM or two with some athleticism. An engine who can run the whole game, but one who isn't complete $#@! at everything else like Sturaro.

    Matuidi cannot be the only one. This squad is really not setup to play the 4-3-3 with only him and it is very disappointing imo how, after seeing our change to 4-3-3, management did nothing all last month to buy Allegri another mobile CM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordoDeCentral View Post
    I wonder if he will get a pass here for that last comment how we are a tier below the elite
    Not getting a pass from me on that comment. I hate it, not too far off Conte’s €10/€100 euro BS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cronios View Post
    If i see him now, i will kiss his left cheek for Pjanic, his right cheek for Benatia and prolly a french kiss for Higuain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordoDeCentral View Post
    I wonder if he will get a pass here for that last comment how we are a tier below the elite
    Oh my God he really said that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badass Dybala View Post
    Where was your saviour? Go eat humble pie you unbearable fool and take your beloved khedira with you

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    All talk... it a disgusting that he can't seem to take responsibility for the teams performance after those 10 mins
    Are you doubting Euromaxx?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordoDeCentral View Post
    I wonder if he will get a pass here for that last comment how we are a tier below the elite
    I suppose it depends how you interpret it. So far this season, we have played below the top tier. I don't think that is false.

    Doesn't mean that without some more luck on the injury/ fitness front and some form we can't join them. Not the same imo as Conte complaining about money.

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    "We were never the favourites to reach the quarter-final. It was always 50-50 with Tottenham and it still is.

    “Juve and Tottenham are sides who can have ambitions going forward, but compared to Bayern Munich, Barcelona and Real Madrid are a step below. In fact, I’d add PSG and Manchester City to that list."

    This is a disgusting attitude. Go to one of those teams if you really feel that way. Coward. And it's exactly like the 100 euro Conte comment and the it's not like Juve win the coppa italia every year Delneri comment.
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