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    Does he want another vacation?

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    After two years of below average days at the office I guess it's time for another vacation.

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    I would take him back in a heartbeat!
    You know how it works. Team you go fans to please...

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    The recompra does make sense from both Raiola, Pogba & Juventus' perspective.
    1) Raiola has the opportunity to get paid commission twice.
    2) Pogba gets an out clause if things do not work to his liking
    3) Juventus have the opportunity to be opportunistic.

    The question is: did Raiola have enough pull to actually get that in the contract, and would United accept? Well, given Pogba's hype, it's certainly possible.
    The number? 60M EUR seems low. But it does make sense depending how you look at it.
    How it doesn't make sense:
    a) It is a loss on an absolute basis.
    b) If you think of Pogba as an asset at market value, it would have been an agreement to potentially sell at below market.
    How it does make sense:
    a) Assuming Pogba is happy, the recompra is not relevant as he would not agree to leave United.
    b) On an accounting/depreciable asset perspective it makes perfect sense. He signed a 5 year contract and if you depreciate 2 years, you get 60M. So United doesn't take an accounting loss on the transaction.

    Assuming all this is true, you need to consider a few more things:
    1) Is there an actual recompra? This is a rumour.
    2) Is Juve interested in taking him back (given his exit) and are they are willing to pay him given that: he is earning wages of 290,000 pounds per week (EUR ~9.3M net per year) and reportedly wants a wage increased comparable to Sanchez @ 11-12M Eur Net.
    3) If they are not willing to pay him at least EUR 9.3M, would he take a cut.
    4) Does he even want to leave United?
    5) It would likely need to be funded through sales, and would that involve a sale of Dybala?

    Doubt it happens but at very least, it's a complicated operazione.

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    @italiacalcio10
    great post, you can add the mystical payments to Raiola in there too.

    Such a clause would go a long way towards explaining why Juve agreed to pay him a stupendous amount of money. It's true he brought Pogba in here, but that by itself isn't a ~20mil deed, considering Pogba wasn't going anywhere in MU. We've paid Can 18M ffs, a few years later(inflation is immoral these days) and he was a starter for Liverpool.
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    The idea of Pogba alongside CR7 at Juve might've tickled Raiola a bit, but United agreeing to a buyback clause much less than the money they paid for Pogba does not seem plausible. This seems too good to be true.

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    Donít think heís got it anymore. Thanks but no thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALC View Post
    Don’t think he’s got it anymore. Thanks but no thanks
    What? You seriously say that after Pogba's World Cup?
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    Donít think heís got it anymore. Thanks but no thanks

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    Dont see utd sell him to us unless we give them Costa or Dybala and that would be stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven View Post
    What? You seriously say that after Pogba's World Cup?
    By that logic, Messi sucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALC View Post
    By that logic, Messi sucks
    No, but I meant the he hasn't got it anymore part. I can understand why you'd say he won't perform consistently, but surely he did rather well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ALC View Post
    Donít think heís got it anymore. Thanks but no thanks
    There's no midfielder I want more then him. Except Modric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osman View Post
    There's no midfielder I want more then him. Except Modric.

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    De Bruyne? I'd probably take him over all of the MF in the world right now given age and versatility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by italiacalcio10 View Post
    De Bruyne? I'd probably take him over all of the MF in the world right now given age and versatility.
    I meant CM. De Bruyne is best AM in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osman View Post
    I meant CM. De Bruyne is best AM in the world.

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    I was under the impression he has been playing a lot of CM lately, no?
    -ie: 3-4-3 with Witsel in games with Belgium and RCM in Man City's 4-3-3

    Or am I completely misunderstanding the role he plays in those formations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by italiacalcio10 View Post
    I was under the impression he has been playing a lot of CM lately, no?
    -ie: 3-4-3 with Witsel in games with Belgium and RCM in Man City's 4-3-3

    Or am I completely misunderstanding the role he plays in those formations?
    It's the typical Pep Guardiolaism, he turned De Bruyne and David Silva, natural AMs, to CMs, still fairly attacking roles. Just start from deeper position. Martinez is in that similar school of thought in NT, tho De Bruynes best game was when they benched Mertens and played him just behind Lukaku instead. He could start attacks much more and scored too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ALC View Post
    Don’t think he’s got it anymore. Thanks but no thanks
    Agreed

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