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    Quote Originally Posted by Bianconero81 View Post
    The best midfielder we had over the past decade
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    Right behind Marchisio.
    And Pirlo. Pjanic will surpass him too soon. and Khedira obviously
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hist View Post
    Pirlo's first season was on a level only all time greats can reach and is definitely overall (if you are looking over his career vs vidal or really anyyne) on a different plane than any other midfielder we have had. Vidal is second behind Pirlo.
    Agreed, he made so much difference during that season it made Milan look like the ultimate idiots
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    Quote Originally Posted by zizinho View Post
    And Pirlo. Pjanic will surpass him too soon. and Khedira obviously
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hist View Post
    Pirlo's first season was on a level only all time greats can reach and is definitely overall (if you are looking over his career vs vidal or really anyyne) on a different plane than any other midfielder we have had. Vidal is second behind Pirlo.
    Vidal is definitely the superior player.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hist View Post
    Pirlo's first season was on a level only all time greats can reach and is definitely overall (if you are looking over his career vs vidal or really anyyne) on a different plane than any other midfielder we have had. Vidal is second behind Pirlo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zizinho View Post
    And Pirlo. Pjanic will surpass him too soon. and Khedira obviously
    Lol how on earth does Khedira come close to Vidal in terms of importance for you guys? Sure he is good, but if you compare the two players time in Juventus Vidal is so far clearly superior on the pitch imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BayernFan View Post
    Lol how on earth does Khedira come close to Vidal in terms of importance for you guys? Sure he is good, but if you compare the two players time in Juventus Vidal is so far clearly superior on the pitch imo.
    These guys are just mad Vidal left us, they know he's the greatest midfielder we've ever had, and arguably the best of all times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BayernFan View Post
    Lol how on earth does Khedira come close to Vidal in terms of importance for you guys? Sure he is good, but if you compare the two players time in Juventus Vidal is so far clearly superior on the pitch imo.
    Greatest midfielder we had doesent necessarily mean who had the best period in a Juve shirt. Khedira ist a World Champion and CL winner, something Vidal has never done. Pogba will surpass him too soon, if he hasnt already
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hist View Post
    Pirlo's first season was on a level only all time greats can reach and is definitely overall (if you are looking over his career vs vidal or really anyyne) on a different plane than any other midfielder we have had. Vidal is second behind Pirlo.
    The best midfielder who performed in a Juve shirt over the past decade. It's not even close. In terms of achievements and accomplishments, Pirlo is clearly the better player, but in terms of effectiveness throughout his entire career with us, Vidal is by and large the best midfielder we have had over the past ten years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zizinho View Post
    Greatest midfielder we had doesent necessarily mean who had the best period in a Juve shirt. Khedira ist a World Champion and CL winner, something Vidal has never done. Pogba will surpass him too soon, if he hasnt already
    You cant measure it that way. Then i guess Rafinha is just as good as Philipp Lahm because he won the CL with Bayern Munich all though he didnt play in the crucial games. Navas is one of the greatest keepers because he won the CL with Real Madrid or?

    I dont really get youre logic.

    Some players just never get to win the CL, that doesent make them any less a player. Lothar Matthäus lost two CL finals with Bayern Munich, but still he won the Ballon d`Or, the World Cup and European too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BayernFan View Post
    You cant measure it that way. Then i guess Rafinha is just as good as Philipp Lahm because he won the CL with Bayern Munich all though he didnt play in the crucial games. Navas is one of the greatest keepers because he won the CL with Real Madrid or?

    I dont really get youre logic.

    Some players just never get to win the CL, that doesent make them any less a player. Lothar Matthäus lost two CL finals with Bayern Munich, but still he won the Ballon d`Or, the World Cup and European too.
    What has Vidal won individually that puts him over Sami? Yes he scored bunch of goals for us but half of them were penalties, and when looking at Samis numbers, they are comparable considering he played less games. Not denying Vidal is better player but he has nothing over Khedira in terms of individual and team accomplishments
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    Quote Originally Posted by zizinho View Post
    What has Vidal won individually that puts him over Sami? Yes he scored bunch of goals for us but half of them were penalties, and when looking at Samis numbers, they are comparable considering he played less games. Not denying Vidal is better player but he has nothing over Khedira in terms of individual and team accomplishments
    To me Vidal is the superior player without a doubt, not in what they won but the impact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zizinho View Post
    What has Vidal won individually that puts him over Sami? Yes he scored bunch of goals for us but half of them were penalties, and when looking at Samis numbers, they are comparable considering he played less games. Not denying Vidal is better player but he has nothing over Khedira in terms of individual and team accomplishments
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    Quote Originally Posted by BayernFan View Post
    To me Vidal is the superior player without a doubt, not in what they won but the impact.
    Vidal is the better player easily, they're not even in the same league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zizinho View Post
    What has Vidal won individually that puts him over Sami? Yes he scored bunch of goals for us but half of them were penalties, and when looking at Samis numbers, they are comparable considering he played less games. Not denying Vidal is better player but he has nothing over Khedira in terms of individual and team accomplishments
    So... by that logic Casillas is one of the best keepers of all time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BayernFan View Post
    You cant measure it that way. Then i guess Rafinha is just as good as Philipp Lahm because he won the CL with Bayern Munich all though he didnt play in the crucial games. Navas is one of the greatest keepers because he won the CL with Real Madrid or?

    I dont really get youre logic.
    But unlike Rafinha or Navas, Khedira was a starter for RM and Germany and did play in crucial games.

    I don't really get your logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAiDEViL View Post
    But unlike Rafinha or Navas, Khedira was a starter for RM and Germany and did play in crucial games.

    I don't really get your logic.
    Lol.

    I think its quite clear what the point is. I also didnt say Khedria is $#@!, he is a decent player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BayernFan View Post
    Lol.

    I think its quite clear what the point is. I also didnt say Khedria is $#@!, he is a decent player.
    the point is you were comparing him to bench players like Rafinha, who were lucky () to win throphies, which simply isn't the case with Khedira, because he was a starter for all the teams he played in.
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    We all know Real only bought Khedira because of his hype at the time. That's what Real does. And then Khedira benefited by being part of such a strong team and winning all those trophies. They didn't win because of him (nor in spite of him). They would have won with any other above average player in his place, like Germany.
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