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    Quote Originally Posted by Cronios View Post
    Yeah, that's bad, but also irrelevant, it's irrelevant what ppl wish, no super power grant wishes, there is always a reason why everything happens.
    As it happened with Milan, we hoped that he will fail miserably, but he didn't fail because we hoped and wished him that, he has failed because he sux. He has failed because he can't defend and in a 4 man defense with 2 CBs, he has to.
    The non deluded Juvevfans knew better than anyone that he can't, as it was proved, better than him.

    If he does well with us, it doesn't matter what anybody hopes and wishes, Juve's success should be above everything and everyone.
    What you should afraid is exactly when this doesn't happen, when Juve suffers and loses strength for the personal benefit of a player, or any agent.

    Time and Time again, Juve, for nationalistic and other shady reasons have printed players that harmed the team, yet we turned a blind eye and regardless kept them, Molinaro for example.
    It is possible that we can do this for a couple of players and expect from other players to drag the team at their expense.

    Bonucci is such a player, that's why he is a threat to our cause, his agent is our great influence with our directors and his presence always thrived at the expense of others, always took the credit for them, never to take responsibility for his faults.
    Such parasites that actively hurt our team should worry you, this is what you should be afraid of...
    I was really happy to see him wallow in misery in meelan.That is why I am happy to see him that he regrets going there.His performance in meelan is also irrelevant (the guy has 10 teammates) he can't do all by himself.You could say they finished 6 because of bonucci (as in a bad way) but you could say that as in a good way.In the end we know that he was quality for us and we considered him that way.
    If he his a threat to our cause remains to be seen.Until then this is just speculation and only time will prove you right or wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hustini View Post
    Bonucci coming back broke Cronios
    Ha ha true, the only player who could do it, i could survive even Pellegrini, Bonaventura and Darmian in the same summer, but Bonucci??
    Brace your selves brothers, dark days are coming...

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    I wonder what would be @Cronios reactions if Ibra is playing for Juve


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cronios View Post
    Yeah, like he would be the only parent that would take the plane twice a week to see his kids.
    Like he couldn't afford it, or like there are no competent doctors in England.
    So lame for him to use such an excuse, shows the kind of person he is...
    God, Bonucci coming back really broke you.

    No $#@!, there are competent doctors in England as well? It's not about that, it's about not taking your already sick kid and take away his friends, family and environment.

    Could He fly back home twice a week? Possibly, but how about he chooses to stay at home? The horrible kind of person he is.
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    Juve > your kids

    There. I said it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kappa96 View Post
    I was really happy to see him wallow in misery in meelan.That is why I am happy to see him that he regrets going there.His performance in meelan is also irrelevant (the guy has 10 teammates) he can't do all by himself.You could say they finished 6 because of bonucci (as in a bad way) but you could say that as in a good way.In the end we know that he was quality for us and we considered him that way.
    If he his a threat to our cause remains to be seen. In the end is just speculation and only time will prove you right or wrong.
    No, it's not about Milan ranking 6th, it's about him being extremely bad, bad enough for the Milan fans to feel relieved to see him gone, even he in his arrogance realised that he has a horrible season there, personally.
    The man is a hypocrite, he knows his actual value. That's why he never attempts to tackle, that's he is always second at man two man's, that's why he is always absent at defending counter attacks. He made a carrier out of him, even when we were getting him, i remember feeling sorry cause i felt that he was dragged by Ranocchia at Bari.

    The guy really is a CM, not a CB, having a CM who can't tackle in the defense, you must have others to cover for him.
    If you don't, he will be exposed, forced to defend and since he can't, he will lose his man and he will create scoring chances, it's inevitable, all these years we be seen it countless times already. We are not talking about a new player here and we can only assume what happens.
    What it might change is how and where Allegri will use him, in a 3 man defense, he will work well vs the smaller teams.
    But if he plays as a starter in a 4 man team, Milan will happen...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cronios View Post
    No, it's not about Milan ranking 6th, it's about him being extremely bad, bad enough for the Milan fans to feel relieved to see him gone, even he in his arrogance realised that he has a horrible season there, personally.
    The man is a hypocrite, he knows his actual value. That's why he never attempts to tackle, that's he is always second at man two man's, that's why he is always absent at defending counter attacks. He made a carrier out of him, even when we were getting him, i remember feeling sorry cause i felt that he was dragged by Ranocchia at Bari.

    The guy really is a CM, not a CB, having a CM who can't tackle in the defense, you must have others to cover for him.
    If you don't, he will be exposed, forced to defend and since he can't, he will lose his man and he will create scoring chances, it's inevitable, all these years we be seen it countless times already. We are not talking about a new player here and we can only assume what happens.
    What it might change is how and where Allegri will use him, in a 3 man defense, he will work well vs the smaller teams.
    But if he plays as a starter in a 4 man team, Milan will happen...
    So what are you going to do about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAiDEViL View Post
    God, Bonucci coming back really broke you.

    No $#@!, there are competent doctors in England as well? It's not about that, it's about not taking your already sick kid and take away his friends, family and environment.

    Could He fly back home twice a week? Possibly, but how about he chooses to stay at home? The horrible kind of person he is.
    Then why not stay at Juventus, or quit football for a year?
    Because he trains many hours a day, he is absent most of the time, why can't he take the plane at his time off like every parent who works in England for the extra money? I know 3 fellow doctors that do it.
    He should make some kind of compromise.
    If his son was first, he should have stayed at Juve, or quit football, the rest a silly excuses...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mondolon View Post
    I wonder what would be @Cronios reactions if Ibra is playing for Juve


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    The only worse than Bonucci would be Molinaro
    Ibra, should he suck, would be benched, the threat always come from Italian players with good manager connections, most of the time young ones, in the defense, who suck, but are kept with the belief that will grow into better players in the future.

    As far as CBs are concerned, most are truly become at least decent at 28-32, even the Legrotaglie level ones.

    They are overrated in Italy alone, so should they fail, you can't sell them, you are married with them and keep playing them with the hope that someday, they will deliver. Zlatan was an arrogant mercenary prick, but as a player, he delivered!
    Brace your selves brothers, dark days are coming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cronios View Post
    No, it's not about Milan ranking 6th, it's about him being extremely bad, bad enough for the Milan fans to feel relieved to see him gone, even he in his arrogance realised that he has a horrible season there, personally.
    The man is a hypocrite, he knows his actual value. That's why he never attempts to tackle, that's he is always second at man two man's, that's why he is always absent at defending counter attacks. He made a carrier out of him, even when we were getting him, i remember feeling sorry cause i felt that he was dragged by Ranocchia at Bari.

    The guy really is a CM, not a CB, having a CM who can't tackle in the defense, you must have others to cover for him.
    If you don't, he will be exposed, forced to defend and since he can't, he will lose his man and he will create scoring chances, it's inevitable, all these years we be seen it countless times already. We are not talking about a new player here and we can only assume what happens.
    What it might change is how and where Allegri will use him, in a 3 man defense, he will work well vs the smaller teams.
    But if he plays as a starter in a 4 man team, Milan will happen...
    I can tottaly see Alegri deploying a 3 man defence a 3 4 3 or a 3 5 2.I really hope that we stop seeing boring juve from last season ,or conserving energy juve.
    You make some valid points about him.Anyway if he doesn't perform we can throw him to the curve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cronios View Post
    Then why not stay at Juventus, or quit football for a year?
    Because he trains many hours a day, he is absent most of the time, why can't he take the plane at his time off like every parent who works in England for the extra money? I know 3 fellow doctors that do it.
    He should make some kind of compromise.
    If his son was first, he should have stayed at Juve, or quit football, the rest a silly excuses
    I quite frankly don't care what your doctor friends do, but staying at home is obviously better than flying back and forth if you have a sick kid at home.

    As for making a compromise - what do you think joining a $#@!e club like Milan was? Exactly that.

    It's not a silly excuse, it's common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kappa96 View Post
    I can tottaly see Alegri deploying a 3 man defence a 3 4 3 or a 3 5 2.I really hope that we stop seeing boring juve from last season ,or conserving energy juve.
    You make some valid points about him.Anyway if he doesn't perform we can throw him to the curve.
    The problem how i see it is that Max is afraid to use 3-4-3, unless we two goals down.
    3 CBs, mean one less man upfront, that's 2, instead of last year's 3, one will be CR7

    He starts with 3-5-2s hybrids, most of the times, which means one of Dybala or Dcosta will stay on the bench, i fear than one of them will ask to leave should he be turned into a sub.

    Also i fear, than even if Bonucci sux, he won't be benched. Having a CM in the center is a tactical option, our team too nearly two months to reaccomodate without one. Should we adapt with one again, it will be difficult to drop and we will sacrifice a bit of defensive solidarity. Most of the times it won't be the case, it mostly becomes a strong problem vs stringers teams, that we usually face in the late CL games.
    So i am afraid that this is when we will pay for this choice and by that day, we will be ignorant of that fault, like the past never happened...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAiDEViL View Post
    I quite frankly don't care what your doctor friends do, but staying at home is obviously better than flying back and forth if you have a sick kid at home.

    As for making a compromise - what do you think joining a $#@!e club like Milan was? Exactly that.

    It's not a silly excuse, it's common sense.
    Then again, why not make the compromise to shut up and stay at Juve?
    It was his choice to leave after all!
    Brace your selves brothers, dark days are coming...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cronios View Post
    The problem how i see it is that Max is afraid to use 3-4-3, unless we two goals down.
    3 CBs, mean one less man upfront, that's 2, instead of last year's 3, one will be CR7

    He starts with 3-5-2s hybrids, most of the times, which means one of Dybala or Dcosta will stay on the bench, i fear than one of them will ask to leave should he be turned into a sub.

    Also i fear, than even if Bonucci sux, he won't be benched. Having a CM in the center is a tactical option, our team too nearly two months to reaccomodate without one. Should we adapt with one again, it will be difficult to drop and we will sacrifice a bit of defensive solidarity. Most of the times it won't be the case, it mostly becomes a strong problem vs stringers teams, that we usually face in the late CL games.
    So i am afraid that this is when we will pay for this choice and by that day, we will be ignorant of that fault, like the past never happened...

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    Then again, why not make the compromise to shut up and stay at Juve?
    It was his choice to leave after all!
    Why do you care if D costa leaves....didnt you say we overpaid for him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monty View Post
    Why do you care if D costa leaves....didnt you say we overpaid for him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAiDEViL View Post
    That's me
    Well you werent the only then

    http://www.juventuz.com/threads/4293...=1#post5576887

    After the clarification of the reason of Bonucci sale and Dalves release, our mercato for me was 8/10.
    Then we dropped the ball. Overpaid for the loaning of DCosta. Szczesny was ok i guess...
    But we also overpaid for De Sciglio and massively overpaid for Bernardeschi.
    Those 4 players CANNOT give us the extra smth we need in Europe this year, maybe some of them will settle and be proven Juve material, but cannot push us forward.
    Investing 46+12+12+40 = 110 illions for them is a massive mistake imo. They are good for the domestic championship, but we didn't need more depth players, we needed starters to offer that extra smth.
    I would prefer two 60mil starters over them any day!
    Whats worse is that some of them will be our starters for quite some time and that would mean that we are not going to further improve and remain in those mediocre standards in the coming years.
    A tragic mistake because we still have some champions, that could do a lot better with a couple more, yet they wont last forever, Higuaín for example has a couple of years at this competitive level.
    And others like Dybala, who are younger, surely knows that if we expect from De Sciglio, DCosta and Bernardeschi to carry us to their shoulders, then we never have the chance to win the CL, so he will inevitable go to a team that can offer them a chance to win it...
    It is a 6/10 now, both because of wasting huuuge money on some players only because they had U21 NT caps and because we have shown to the world that we have dropped the white towel.
    Instead of pushing to improve and reclaim that CL, we have accepted our fate to be in the back seat...
    Such a sad day, it is, last year some transfers gave me hope, despite dropping our best players like Tevez, Vidal and Pogba in the past years.
    I thought that we manned up and showed the ambition to reach the old Juve level with the acquisition of champions on their prime, like Higuaín.
    But it was sort lived, we are still a feeder club, we will sell our champions and settle with the Bernardeschis...

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    Them long posts

    Almost like he has them pre-produced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAiDEViL View Post
    Them long posts

    Almost like he has them pre-produced.
    He's probably an AI that Google didn't want made public.
    This is not a democracy. Deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by icemaη View Post
    He's probably an AI that Google didn't want made public.
    Cronios > Cartona > Siri > Alexa
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    How is Cronios not threadbanned? He's as bad as that Khungke dude in the Marchisio thread. Spamming this nonsense about Bonucci here and in pretty much every other football thread in the forum.

    It's funny for a few posts, then it just gets tedious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hustini View Post
    Juve > your kids

    There. I said it.
    @mods @lgorTudor

    Straight ban please. Jokes about child neglect are not funny, especially with regards to a sick child that almost died.

    It's been a prevalent notion. Fallen sparks. Fragments of vessels broken at the Creation. And someday, somehow, before the end, a gathering back to home. A messenger from the Kingdom, arriving at the last moment. But I tell you there is no such message, no such home -- only the millions of last moments . . . nothing more. Our history is an aggregate of last moments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Post Ironic View Post
    How is Cronios not threadbanned? He's as bad as that Khungke dude in the Marchisio thread. Spamming this nonsense about Bonucci here and in pretty much every other football thread in the forum.

    It's funny for a few posts, then it just gets tedious.

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    @mods @lgorTudor

    Straight ban please. Jokes about child neglect are not funny, especially with regards to a sick child that almost died.

    poor @lgorTudor, is he still banned?
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