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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbull View Post
    Why Chiellini didn't look like a fail in the pre-Conte era though? We sure as hell didn't have a good defense when we finished 7th twice, yet it was clear as day that the guy is a WC defender. Capello is a $#@! and I'll never forgive him for ruining 2 years of Del Piero's career, but he's right about Bonucci being a joke for Milan, that's not how good, let alone WC defender players regardless of the situation.


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    you realize that we had Chiellini, Barzagli and Bonucci for 16 games in 10/11 and conceded 20 goals in those 16 games, the same amount we conceded the whole following season with Conte in charge, and that same personnel
    Goes back to tactics being drilled and rehearsed over and over again.

    Same as this season. Many changes it took a while but now you see the organizational effort and the fruits of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbull View Post
    Why Chiellini didn't look like a fail in the pre-Conte era though?
    Yep, even some time with Conte, look up this thread after we draw Genoa 2-2 at home.
    Don't want to write a long-ass post, man.
    The problem with Bonbon is that he played his best football with us on a fantastic level as a crucial cog in a great organized team. For some reason, people thought that if you add a tablespoon of honey to a bowl full of $#@!, you will get at least something in between. Surprisingly you still end up with a bowl of $#@!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopanja View Post
    Yep, even some time with Conte, look up this thread after we draw Genoa 2-2 at home.
    Don't want to write a long-ass post, man.
    The problem with Bonbon is that he played his best football with us on a fantastic level as a crucial cog in a great organized team. For some reason, people thought that if you add a tablespoon of honey to a bowl full of $#@!, you will get at least something in between. Surprisingly you still end up with a bowl of $#@!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopanja View Post
    Yep, even some time with Conte, look up this thread after we draw Genoa 2-2 at home.
    Don't want to write a long-ass post, man.
    The problem with Bonbon is that he played his best football with us on a fantastic level as a crucial cog in a great organized team. For some reason, people thought that if you add a tablespoon of honey to a bowl full of $#@!, you will get at least something in between. Surprisingly you still end up with a bowl of $#@!.
    I'm talking looking like a fail overall not after one incident/game or another, Chiellini never had the half season Bonucci just had at Milan no matter how bad our team/coach was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitbull View Post
    I'm talking looking like a fail overall not after one incident/game or another, Chiellini never had the half season Bonucci just had at Milan no matter how bad our team/coach was.
    Come on, man. The only way why Chiello got more or less a free pass when we were $#@!, it's because he was a hope. We already knew the level of $#@!ing Boumsong, Knezevic, Standardo (not Mellberg though, Olof is love ). Do you remember him as LB? Lol, that was fun.

    Bonbon gets a lot of flack and rightfully so, but only because he was great here. Nobody talks about how $#@! Romagnoli or Abate is. Or how suddenly overrated everyone's darling Rodriguez is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopanja View Post
    Come on, man. The only way why Chiello got more or less a free pass when we were $#@!, it's because he was a hope. We already knew the level of $#@!ing Boumsong, Knezevic, Standardo (not Mellberg though, Olaf is love ). Do you remember him as LB? Lol, that was fun.

    Bonbon gets a lot of flack and rightfully so, but only because he was great here. Nobody talks about how $#@! Romagnoli or Abate is. Or how suddenly overrated everyone's darling Rodriguez is.
    BonBon also starts for Azzurri and will likely be the new captain only because he was great at Juve, he wouldn't even be called up otherwise. And I stand by my Chiellini statement, he's twice the defender and ten times the man Bonucci is.

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    Bonucci seems to mentally break down that’s been an issue for me. Going gets tough, Chiellini turns into the hulk. Pure old school defender for me. Bonucci was great here and when the team works to his strengths he is a great asset. Not so much when you aren’t surrounded by world class players where everything looks easy.
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    He was far too unstable at Juve and his relations with Allegri had probably passed the point where he no longer respected Allegri enough to not blow out at him

    Best decision to move him on for both parties

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vialli_92 View Post
    He was far too unstable at Juve and his relations with Allegri had probably passed the point where he no longer respected Allegri enough to not blow out at him

    Best decision to move him on for both parties
    moggi said about this transfer that it'll benefit neither of the parties involved: neither of juve, milan and the player will be content with it. look at milan and bonucci, moggi was right about them.

    juve is doing fine so far, though

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    We could've cashed in way more though if BonBon wasnt dead set on ruining hiss career and joining Milan

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    Btw, congrats on 1000 pages Leo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kopanja View Post
    Yep, even some time with Conte, look up this thread after we draw Genoa 2-2 at home.
    Don't want to write a long-ass post, man.
    The problem with Bonbon is that he played his best football with us on a fantastic level as a crucial cog in a great organized team. For some reason, people thought that if you add a tablespoon of honey to a bowl full of $#@!, you will get at least something in between. Surprisingly you still end up with a bowl of $#@!.
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    If i see him now, i will kiss his left cheek for Pjanic, his right cheek for Benatia and prolly a french kiss for Higuain!

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    Bonucci isnt a good indivisual defender so he is always going to struggle when challenged on his own. Even at Juve. Chiellini is a great individual defender and would be a rock in any defence out there. Hes that type of player. While I have always thought he was our best defender Bonucci being good in a bad defense isnt something he can thrive at. He needs good players around him
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    Out of all the players who have left.

    Him
    Alves
    Evra

    Are the only ones I dont miss.

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    nice logic everyone
    spending more time on traitors than actual players who still play and stay
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    people still salty over this guy? tbh i kinda forgot him
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afghan_juventus View Post
    Out of all the players who have left.

    Him
    Alves
    Evra

    Are the only ones I dont miss.
    Evra? Really? I have always liked him, great guy. I'm glad that Alves left though, he's a $#@!ing ass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Afghan_juventus View Post
    Out of all the players who have left.

    Him
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    Are the only ones I dont miss.
    Lol, Alves can give us that 20% more chance of winning CL

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