I can understand Ciro's spiel...very easily as I know him well from his playing days as d many of our legion. He is uncompromising. Never gives up. And will play until he dies...and also manage until he dies or is taken out of the equation.
I am fed up with the bullshit I read on here regarding the lack of culpability on Ciro's part. It is nothing but bullshit. We have a team BETTER than we have been showing, not just for a game or two, but for tha vast majority of the season. That is one thing. Then...we have a manager to consistently plays players OUT OF POSITION.
It is surely a rudimentary job for a manager to know where a player is at his best, tactically. Ciro does not have this rudimentary ability or awareness. Hence his deployment of Tiago as a Giovinco in a trident offensive midfield. Hence his deployment of Del Piero as a flying winger. Hence his deployment of our most promising central midfielder, as a winger.
these mistakes are not Blanc's fault. Nor Secco's. Yes, they both employed Ciro. For that we can attribute blame. but THEY surely did not expect their man to be so woefully unable to make the most basic of decisions...meaning PLAY THE PLAYERS WHERE THEY ARE NATURALLY AT THEIR BEST.
They took a risk. I was FOR it, at the time. So cannot spend hours raging at Blanc or Cobolli, for giving Ciro the top job...BUT...I most certainly CAN rage at them now, for not sacking him. From a purely business perspective, we are fucked. Especially if this form, of 3-4 months, not 3-4 games, not a blip, but our actual long term FORM, continues. If we miss out on the champions league, we will not only lose millions of $$$ thus decreasing our transfer budget, we will also LOSE THE ABILITY TO ATTRACT TOP PLAYERS...because top players want to play in the champions league. This is very very basic mathematics, in a business sense.
If a manager is decreasing the value of a team (an asset, a piece of capital) then he is losing the shareholders money, losing the supporters, losing $$$$$$. So as a businessman, i dont give a fuck how astute Blanc appears to be, for he is failing, not just as a president, of one of the most formerly prestigious clubs in the world, but as a businessman also. There is his blame game award...
but back to Ciro.
I dont feel sorry for him. He took the job. He thought he could move us forward, but has moved us backwards. There is NO DOUBT about this. and for anyone to be transferring the blame to Blanc and Secco, its needless, for I am certain, that a manager like Hiddink, with the team we have, which Secco helped create, would be doing much better than Ciro. And that is my point here.
Ciro IS TO BLAME. the buck stops with him, when it comes to tactics, training, motivation. and he has failed on all three counts, time and time again.
How long must this go on??? Never in my life as a juventino have i learned of supporters BURNING THEIR OWN SEATS...
I know of no other club which would continue to support such a situation. Why us???
as a player, Ciro, I adored you, I learned from you, I respected you...but as a manager, you are useless. Absolutely useless...
once we accept that Ciro is the MAIN problem. we can get a new manager and then attack other problems, namely, the transitional phase we are engaged in.
With a crop of our older stars dying out, and the youngsters either not proven themselves yet, or not given the chance to prove themselves yet, we have tried to bridge the gap between OLD and YOUNG, with Melo and Diego...it hasnt worked. With Ciro as boss. Its a tough job...and most big teams go through such a period. However, most big teams, understand the need for a decent manager in this period, who is able and willing to bridge this divide between OLD and NEW. its too big a job for Ciro.
This is beyond simple now.
I am fed up with the bullshit I read on here regarding the lack of culpability on Ciro's part. It is nothing but bullshit. We have a team BETTER than we have been showing, not just for a game or two, but for tha vast majority of the season. That is one thing. Then...we have a manager to consistently plays players OUT OF POSITION.
It is surely a rudimentary job for a manager to know where a player is at his best, tactically. Ciro does not have this rudimentary ability or awareness. Hence his deployment of Tiago as a Giovinco in a trident offensive midfield. Hence his deployment of Del Piero as a flying winger. Hence his deployment of our most promising central midfielder, as a winger.
these mistakes are not Blanc's fault. Nor Secco's. Yes, they both employed Ciro. For that we can attribute blame. but THEY surely did not expect their man to be so woefully unable to make the most basic of decisions...meaning PLAY THE PLAYERS WHERE THEY ARE NATURALLY AT THEIR BEST.
They took a risk. I was FOR it, at the time. So cannot spend hours raging at Blanc or Cobolli, for giving Ciro the top job...BUT...I most certainly CAN rage at them now, for not sacking him. From a purely business perspective, we are fucked. Especially if this form, of 3-4 months, not 3-4 games, not a blip, but our actual long term FORM, continues. If we miss out on the champions league, we will not only lose millions of $$$ thus decreasing our transfer budget, we will also LOSE THE ABILITY TO ATTRACT TOP PLAYERS...because top players want to play in the champions league. This is very very basic mathematics, in a business sense.
If a manager is decreasing the value of a team (an asset, a piece of capital) then he is losing the shareholders money, losing the supporters, losing $$$$$$. So as a businessman, i dont give a fuck how astute Blanc appears to be, for he is failing, not just as a president, of one of the most formerly prestigious clubs in the world, but as a businessman also. There is his blame game award...
but back to Ciro.
I dont feel sorry for him. He took the job. He thought he could move us forward, but has moved us backwards. There is NO DOUBT about this. and for anyone to be transferring the blame to Blanc and Secco, its needless, for I am certain, that a manager like Hiddink, with the team we have, which Secco helped create, would be doing much better than Ciro. And that is my point here.
Ciro IS TO BLAME. the buck stops with him, when it comes to tactics, training, motivation. and he has failed on all three counts, time and time again.
How long must this go on??? Never in my life as a juventino have i learned of supporters BURNING THEIR OWN SEATS...
I know of no other club which would continue to support such a situation. Why us???
as a player, Ciro, I adored you, I learned from you, I respected you...but as a manager, you are useless. Absolutely useless...
once we accept that Ciro is the MAIN problem. we can get a new manager and then attack other problems, namely, the transitional phase we are engaged in.
With a crop of our older stars dying out, and the youngsters either not proven themselves yet, or not given the chance to prove themselves yet, we have tried to bridge the gap between OLD and YOUNG, with Melo and Diego...it hasnt worked. With Ciro as boss. Its a tough job...and most big teams go through such a period. However, most big teams, understand the need for a decent manager in this period, who is able and willing to bridge this divide between OLD and NEW. its too big a job for Ciro.
This is beyond simple now.
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