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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanaukyo View Post
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    He's right.Zlatan is the best!:bow:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azzurri7 View Post
    Lol @ segundo.

    Well, at least Inzaghi hasn't got an ugly nose with a terrible smile on his face. I can't wait to see Chiellini eating that camel for the 3rd time.
    you have to feel sorry for Inzaghi though,anyone who wishes he was as good looking as simone inzaghi must be one hell of an ugly bastard

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    yet even here,on a juventuz forum,in a zlatan thread, you will still be hated
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bürkε View Post
    There are no obvious reasons, Vlatko made better points, decision reversed, thread re-opened.
    May I make a thread of my favorite Iranian footballer and put his vids there? I assure you that he's so damn skillful. Oh and I love John Terry so much. May I make a thread and put the vids of his defending skills there? What about making another thread about Ivan Klasnic? It would be good of you if you let me make one thread about David Beckham's marvelous freekicks and one for Pete Crouch's nice goals too. Oh and not to forget that a Batistuta thread here would be so nice. You know he was a legend, very skillful and I used to love him.

    Thanks in advance.
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    You can make all these threads in the multimedia or misc football section.There can been videos/pics of Rossi(i remeber Nicole opening one back in the day),videos/pics of other players too.You can even have threads for all these players in the Misc football section.

    Im sorry but this is just childish biasness towards Zlatan.People will open threads of fantastic goals,skillwork by non-juve players..and no one complains.But as soon as its Zlatan,the childish attitude comes back.

    Did anyone whine when Geof opened a thread for Demble or when Nicole opened one for Rossi?I remember opening a thread for Pirlo in the misc football section.Did anyone complain?No.
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    Quote Originally Posted by king Ale View Post
    May I make a thread of my favorite Iranian footballer and put his vids there? I assure you that he's so damn skillful. Oh and I love John Terry so much. May I make a thread and put the vids of his defending skills there? What about making another thread about Ivan Klasnic? It would be good of you if you let me make one thread about David Beckham's marvelous freekicks and one for Pete Crouch's nice goals too. Oh and not to forget that a Batistuta thread here would be so nice. You know he was a legend, very skillful and I used to love him.

    Thanks in advance.
    You can if you want, but most of the time you'll end up talking to yourself in your threads.

    Just type the name Zlatan using the search option and you will get 500 posts only for the last 4 months. In every single thread here someone talks about Zlatan. Some adore him, some hate him but everybody talks about him.
    I know Burke's idea is to have a thread where videos of his skills will be shared but by leaving this thread open he succeeded in keeping the other threads more clean because now people who love/hate Zlatan talk about him stricktly in this thread.

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    plus we are all missing the point that Zlatan used to play for this club,sure he polarized opinion and acted with little grace but nobody can deny that this big camelfaceddicknosed$#@! is a spectacular footballer
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    Quote Originally Posted by salman View Post
    You can make all these threads in the multimedia or misc football section.There can been videos/pics of Rossi(i remeber Nicole opening one back in the day),videos/pics of other players too.You can even have threads for all these players in the Misc football section.

    Im sorry but this is just childish biasness towards Zlatan.People will open threads of fantastic goals,skillwork by non-juve players..and no one complains.But as soon as its Zlatan,the childish attitude comes back.

    Did anyone whine when Geof opened a thread for Demble or when Nicole opened one for Rossi?I remember opening a thread for Pirlo in the misc football section.Did anyone complain?No.
    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    You can if you want, but most of the time you'll end up talking to yourself in your threads.

    Just type the name Zlatan using the search option and you will get 500 posts only for the last 4 months. In every single thread here someone talks about Zlatan. Some adore him, some hate him but everybody talks about him.
    I know Burke's idea is to have a thread where video's of his skills will be shared but by leaving this thread open he succeeded in keeping the other threads more clean because now people who love/hate Zlatan talk about him stricktly in this thread.

    Okay then. Our multimedia full of these threads would be just interesting. I honestly don't mind talking to myself in those threads cos my point of making such threads is definitely not SHARING those vids.

    It's not childish Salman. I don't have anything against the player. He isn't playing for Juve and that's all as far as I'm concerned. I even don't bother myself calling him zingaro and all but I, on the contrary, think letting this thread be existed is more childish. You know how ppl feeling about Zlatan here (and frankly it's more hate than love) and having an exclusive thread about him is JUST provoking.

    Some may love the player (you and Alen are among them) but the majority don't and it has a very simple reason: He is a very talented player who left us in the worst situation and joined to our most hated rival. It's so obvious that most of ppl who call Zlatan "Zingaro" would still love to have him in Juve. Having said that I understand their hate towards him.

    Alen; I'm sure having this thread won't decrease talking about Zlatan in other threads. It's too clear. As long as he's playing wonderful ppl keep talking about him.

    I'm against this thread because it's against the will of majority here.
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    This started as a very simple thread which carried ONE goal scored by Zlatan.Thats it.But it turned into something much more.I dont agree with the 'because he's hated by the majority,threads that carry his goals should be removed' idea.The majority can just stay out of this thread and let the silent minority mind tis own business.I mean,we have a LIVERPOOL thread on this forum.a LiVERPOOL thread of all teams.That was never closed down,even though we have only 1 regular Liverpool fan on the forums.A lot of the people here still dislike Liverpool,but was that thread closed down?No it stayed there.

    We cant open/close threads based on what the majority hates/loves.Its a forum for Juvenus fans,with certain sections that cater to non-Juventus discussions.A person can talk about whoever he wants in there.A thread about Zlatan probably makes more sense than a thread about Kaka for example,since Zlatan is an ex-player and Kaka isnt.People are more than welcome to not post in threads that they dislike.But that doesnt seem to happen with Zlatan.Im not talking about you,but the general attitude towards a discussion towards Zlatan on the forum.

    He's been gone for over 2 years.Yet,he has never,and any unbiased person will know this..he has NEVER slammed Juventus since he left.On the contrary,he's said positive things about Juventus.Yes he left us in a pathetic manner,but it's been 2 years now,and he has never degraded Juventus since.Yet people still cannot tolerate a discussion about Zlatan?Anyone who praises a goal,or a good performance by him is questioned,anyone who calls him a great player is insulted.

    People have never been able to get over the fact that Zlatan was getting more playing time than Del Piero during his time here.Its been 2 years,but people are still stuck in 2004-06.If this isnt childish,then i dont know what is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salman View Post
    we have a LIVERPOOL thread on this forum. That was never closed down, even though we have only 1 regular Liverpool fan on the forums.
    Actually we have 2.

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    Just that the roots of the hatred towards Zlatan can be found long before he left Juve and the hatred has a little to do with him leaving Juve and a lot to do with him playing regularly for Juve and Del Piero warming the bench in the meantime.
    What's the difference between Vieira and Ibrahimovic ? Why doesn't everyone talk about Vieira ?
    How many times you see people here talk about Emerson and Zambrotta ?

    All of them play for our bitter rivals and all of them left our team in the worst situation.

    Then again, you have another man who left us when it was the toughest but who isn't part of Milan and Inter and yet he's the second most hated figure in these forums after Zlatan.
    Fabio Capello.

    Ever wondered why is it this way ?
    Is it a coincidence that the man who kept Del Piero on the bench and the guy who took Del Piero's place in the starting XI are the two most hated people here ?


    You have a fair point though. The guy doesn't play for Juve so it's fair to say that he doesn't deserve his thread.
    You're wrong when you say that having this thread won't decrease talking about him in other threads.
    Like i said, type "Zlatan" in Search. In the first page or two you'll see that 90% of the posts about him are here in this topic.
    Go further and you'll see that previously people talked about him in "The Il Capitano Del Piero thread", "The...I want this player to Juve thread", "what are u currently listenin to thread", "The Official Amauri Thread", "Sebastian Giovinco in Gillette advertising", All the Juve matches threads, "The Official Jorge Andrade Thread", "The most hated man by sporty gays(zlatty) thread" , "What happend to the brazilian superstars thread" etc, and this is only for the month of September.

    If this will be the place where people will show us how much they hate Zlatan and thus keep the other topics clean(er), then so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikoninhosa View Post
    Actually we have 2.
    Who's the other one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by salman View Post
    Who's the other one?
    http://www.juventuz.com/forum/member.php?u=1855

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    Yes i forgot about him.Enron is more noticeable i guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by salman View Post
    This started as a very simple thread which carried ONE goal scored by Zlatan.Thats it.But it turned into something much more.I dont agree with the 'because he's hated by the majority,threads that carry his goals should be removed' idea.The majority can just stay out of this thread and let the silent minority mind tis own business.I mean,we have a LIVERPOOL thread on this forum.a LiVERPOOL thread of all teams.That was never closed down,even though we have only 1 regular Liverpool fan on the forums.A lot of the people here still dislike Liverpool,but was that thread closed down?No it stayed there.

    We cant open/close threads based on what the majority hates/loves.Its a forum for Juvenus fans,with certain sections that cater to non-Juventus discussions.A person can talk about whoever he wants in there.A thread about Zlatan probably makes more sense than a thread about Kaka for example,since Zlatan is an ex-player and Kaka isnt.People are more than welcome to not post in threads that they dislike.But that doesnt seem to happen with Zlatan.Im not talking about you,but the general attitude towards a discussion towards Zlatan on the forum.

    He's been gone for over 2 years.Yet,he has never,and any unbiased person will know this..he has NEVER slammed Juventus since he left.On the contrary,he's said positive things about Juventus.Yes he left us in a pathetic manner,but it's been 2 years now,and he has never degraded Juventus since.Yet people still cannot tolerate a discussion about Zlatan?Anyone who praises a goal,or a good performance by him is questioned,anyone who calls him a great player is insulted.

    People have never been able to get over the fact that Zlatan was getting more playing time than Del Piero during his time here.Its been 2 years,but people are still stuck in 2004-06.If this isnt childish,then i dont know what is.
    It has nothing to do with Ale IMO. Zlatan left us. That was a sad fact. Leaving us to Inter aggravated the case and the fact that he's playing wonderfully for Inter is something that is harsh for Juventus fans to tolerate. It's as simple as that. If Ale was his partner upfront at that time the case wouldn't change. You keep talking about "two years" but this "two years" is not a big time by any means. At least up until the time we achieve something and feel the strength and the reputation we once had. We are a club which had been defamed and we're still suffering form it. I agree that the attitude you call childish isn't alright and I personally don't like it either but it's sure understandable.

    Comparing this thread to the Liverpool one isn't true IMO. The harsh feelings about Liverpool is not even close to the way people feel about Zlatan and you know it. Yes, people can simply ignore this thread but the comments here provoke them to come back. I sometimes think Vlatko, Esteban and some others won't enjoy this thread without the likes of Rab and Turk.

    For putting the brilliant goal Zlatan has scored there are many other palces on this forum (goals of the month, Serie A thread for example). Having that goal there makes much more sense than opening an exclusive thread about a player who is hated throughout this little society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    Just that the roots of the hatred towards Zlatan can be found long before he left Juve and the hatred has a little to do with him leaving Juve and a lot to do with him playing regularly for Juve and Del Piero warming the bench in the meantime.
    What's the difference between Vieira and Ibrahimovic ? Why doesn't everyone talk about Vieira ?
    How many times you see people here talk about Emerson and Zambrotta ?
    None of them were as promising as Zlatan. None of them have been as successful and wonderful as Zlatan after leaving Juve. Missing none of them was as harsh az Zlatan's. Zlatan was the player we wanted to make our future. Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Emerson and Thuram left us to two foreign clubs and this is sure one big difference between them and Zlatan. Between Vieria and Ibra I think it's clear why people are more sensitive about the latter.

    As I said, Ale has nothing to do with this. In fact Zlatan was beloved by the fans though Ale was sitting on the bench.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alen View Post
    Then again, you have another man who left us when it was the toughest but who isn't part of Milan and Inter and yet he's the second most hated figure in these forums after Zlatan.
    Fabio Capello.
    Oh, I dislike Capello too. I hated his tactics. His predictable 4-4-2 and his ineptness to lead that great Juve (one of the strongest in the recent years) further in Champions League. I hate his attitude towards Ale. I don't say it because he'd benched Ale, I mean exactly the MANNER. I remember him asking Ale warming up from the begining of the first half and then didn't let him go in. He acted very disrespectfully against the captain who, you like it or not, is loved by the fans. YES, I dislike him. Better to say, I even disliked him when he was Juve coach. He was, is, and always be a prick in my mind. But it's not something you could use to prove that the reason of all this hate towards Ibra is Ale.
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    Get over yourself King Ale and get over the fact there are people who recognize Ibrahimovic as great football player. You can twist this how you like, what it all comes down to is Del Piero and you can keep on denying it as much as you like, 90% of the people who can't stand Ibrahimovic here, are people with Del Piero usernames and avatars.

    I honestly wouldn't even post in this thread in the first place had it not been wrongfully closed by Rab and I believe every other mod agrees with me. I would have just watched the video and went on with my life. This the COMMUNITY section of the forum, no rule was broken and if people who are interested in Zlatan want to see his videos they have a right to it. If for anything, than because he played in this club 2 year ago.

    And I find it ironic that you mention provocation when in fact it's you, Rab, Turk, etc. who are provocating in this thread with the Zingaro posts and other stuff. Live and let live, no one is holding your hand and forcing you to click this thread. The way you're going, you're gonna have the most posts in this thread, if you manage to top Rab, that is.
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    Actually, i'm pretty sure she's being honest here and her dislike for Ibrahimovic has a little or nothing to do with Del Piero, but she's wrong if she really thinks that the majority of Zlatan haters feel the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Esteban View Post
    Why are you all feeding the troll?


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