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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddy View Post
    We don't really need more people. The earth is already overpopulated.

    Within 10-20 years we'll see - finally - policies regarding this. Especially Africa is $#@!ed.
    The earth is overpopulated because poor third world countries reproduce a lot, while developed western countries don't reproduce enough. I don't agree that western European countries don't need more people, they do need more working age young people, its just an issue of getting in the right people.

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    This in itself is not wrong. I don't want more Afghan refugees either. 90% of them are unskilled, totally unprepared for life in Belgium and realistically will not really add anything to our society for the remainder of their lives. I don't think the future is particularly interesting for them either. By the time they are somewhat able to work, they'll be 50.

    But that doesn't change the fact that, as a human being, I understand why we have to allow some refugees to settle in Belgium. It's not a question of want at all imo. It's something we has human beings have to do.


    The issue here is that we cannot expect the western world alone to take in all refugees, the rest of the world has to pick up the slack too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred View Post
    The earth is overpopulated because poor third world countries reproduce a lot, while developed western countries don't reproduce enough. I don't agree that western European countries don't need more people, they do need more working age young people, its just an issue of getting in the right people.
    Robots and automation will exclude the need of uneducated labour. The current fertility rate is sustainable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddy View Post


    I dated a cute -columbian/-danish psychologist last may/june. She went to an ayahuasca-retreat and that completely changed her. After she finished her master's degree in neuropsychology, she gave up on "science" and instead wanted to find the "truth" in spirits and the spiritual connection between us all, a connection she had first felt when she was high on ayahuasca (btw. she claimed she wasn't high, but it was her spirits finally released inside ); soem new age $#@! nonsense - now she is a spiritual guide in soem hippie collective in Spain.

    Such a damn shame. Cute, intelligent, extremely caring and warm hearted and out a diplomat family
    I've smoked DMT, same chemical. Experienced the the history of the Aztec empire on the wall of my friends apartment. No spiritual awakening though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddy View Post
    Robots and automation will exclude the need of uneducated labour. The current fertility rate is sustainable.
    This is an educated guess though. I agree with you that it is likely. I also think governments need to prepare for a big part of the entire population that might not have a meaningful job to do. But so far robots and automation have not yet completely excluded this need. Far from it. We don't know for sure if or when this will happen either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven View Post
    This is an educated guess though. I agree with you that it is likely. I also think governments need to prepare for a big part of the entire population that might not have a meaningful job to do. But so far robots and automation have not yet completely excluded this need. Far from it. We don't know for sure if or when this will happen either.


    This will be a big challenge in the 21st century. People need meaningful occupation to thrive, so governments must find solutions to do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAiDEViL View Post
    The bedingunslose Grundeinkommen. It HAS to come sooner or later.
    I'm going to assume this means basic income. But even if basic income is a reality, that is only part of the solution. People have to find some meaning in their lives. I am confident that I would find something to do if I did not have to work for money. Perhaps the incentive would be even greater. I am not quite so sure that it would work this way for everyone. Our day jobs take up significant parts of our lives. They also provide us with social contact. You'd need to replace all of that too, not just the income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven View Post
    I'm going to assume this means basic income. But even if basic income is a reality, that is only part of the solution. People have to find some meaning in their lives. I am confident that I would find something to do if I did not have to work for money. Perhaps the incentive would be even greater. I am not quite so sure that it would work this way for everyone. Our day jobs take up significant parts of our lives. They also provide us with social contact. You'd need to replace all of that too, not just the income.
    People can do volunteer social work, or even spend their time on arts or other hobbies. Both the individual and society will benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzalcoatl View Post
    People can do volunteer social work, or even spend their time on arts or other hobbies. Both the individual and society will benefit.
    Yeah, sure. They can. There are lots of people however who don't even know what to do with their free time in the weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzalcoatl View Post
    People can do volunteer social work, or even spend their time on arts or other hobbies. Both the individual and society will benefit.
    This isn't necessarily meaningful + there's isn't enough volunteer social work to do in well-functioning societies such the Scandinavians.

    Meaning is the feeling of contributing to the whole. Hobbies, arts etc., rarely fulfills this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven View Post
    Yeah, sure. They can. There are lots of people however who don't even know what to do with their free time in the weekend.
    That's relaxation and leisure time for most people. But surely the average person will eventually get fed up of doing nothing all day, everyday and try to figure out what they can do to add meaning to their lives. And I suppose if universal income became implemented, governments would encourage and educate their people on how they can make use of their extra free time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven View Post
    Yeah, sure. They can. There are lots of people however who don't even know what to do with their free time in the weekend.
    Which is sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddy View Post
    This isn't necessarily meaningful + there's isn't enough volunteer social work to do in well-functioning societies such the Scandinavians.

    Meaning is the feeling of contributing to the whole. Hobbies, arts etc., rarely fulfills this.
    If that's not meaningful, then there are many jobs out there that aren't meaningful either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzalcoatl View Post
    That's relaxation and leisure time for most people. But surely the average person will eventually get fed up of doing nothing all day, everyday and try to figure out what they can do to add meaning to their lives. And I suppose if universal income became implemented, governments would encourage and educate their people on how they can make use of their extra free time.
    I do not feel confident about this at all.

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    Which is sad.
    Yes, it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven View Post
    Yeah, sure. They can. There are lots of people however who don't even know what to do with their free time in the weekend.
    I would smoke weed and marathon entire shows on netflix. Then maybe Id meet someone like @IliveForJuve who would introduce me to hallucinogens and weed would not seem the same. During our acid trips, wed end up stumbling our way into crack and eventually meth because we wouldnt have any real responsibilities to worry about.

    It would be a short life but a fun one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzalcoatl View Post
    If that's not meaningful, then there are many jobs out there that aren't meaningful either.
    There are. But what really matters is that you feel you are doing meaningful work. Whether it is or it isn't, is largely irrelevant.

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    I would smoke weed and marathon entire shows on netflix. Then maybe I’d meet someone like @IliveForJuve who would introduce me to hallucinogens and weed would not seem the same. During our acid trips, we’d end up stumbling our way into crack and eventually meth because we wouldn’t have any real responsibilities to worry about.

    It would be a short life but a fun one.
    The white trash life. Or indio trash life in @IliveForJuve's case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetzalcoatl View Post
    If that's not meaningful, then there are many jobs out there that aren't meaningful either.
    There is. Why do you think we have a stress epidemic?

    But still there's a huge difference between waking up to go to work and waking up to do soem "arts".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maddy View Post
    We don't really need more people. The earth is already overpopulated.

    Within 10-20 years we'll see - finally - policies regarding this. Especially Africa is $#@!ed.
    The reverse pyramid age demographic is a HUGE issue in the West and Asian countries like China. It can lead to economic collapses. You'll have a very high number of old people supported by a very small number of workers.

    Overpopulated is only an issue in Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seven View Post
    There are. But what really matters is that you feel you are doing meaningful work. Whether it is or it isn't, is largely irrelevant.

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    The white trash life. Or indio trash life in @IliveForJuve's case.
    I can guarantee you that a vast majority of the population dont look at their jobs as meaningful but rather as a way to support themselves and make money.

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