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don't really completely agree . henry's style is made for the premiership .
he has the pace , control , and the free flowing football style that just doesnt exist in serie A . maybe ancelotti did make a big mistake , but i think sooner or later henry would have left italy .
some players just don't fit in certain leagues .
he has the pace , control , and the free flowing football style that just doesnt exist in serie A . maybe ancelotti did make a big mistake , but i think sooner or later henry would have left italy .
some players just don't fit in certain leagues .
Here is my opinion about WC players: Alex was an excellent player but not a truly WC, since his injury he lost pace and kinda dissapeared from international scene. He is highly rated among Juve and Italy fans but not only because his play but cuz of his personality and everything and I appreciate that much more than having an ignorant WC player. Alex is and will always stay legend at Juve but not in Italian NT or wider and that's a fact like it or not. I know that Alex unfairly is not getting a chance in Italian NT or he didn't got (you know what I mean, there is always someone who will play instead of him 
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Neddy was a WC but at the moment he is not anymore (probably cuz of his age) he is now a legend and for me that's above WC. Why??? Cut only WC player can become a legend.
Trezeguet is highly underrated and that's why many doesn't count on him as a WC, but he is still one of the best goalscorers in the world and that should mean he is a WC (unfortunatly, like it or not noone except Juve fans and few others doesn't count him as WC)
Buffon is the only true WC we have, he is best at his bussines and noone can argue with that :faq:
*note: I made this ranking based on popularity and appreciation in Europe, even I don't like this method cuz it's not showing true value of a player. Like Badass said Neddy is giving 110% on the pitch unlike many other "WC" players and that's why I would rather love to have 11 Neddy's instead of 11 WC players (and I'm sure that every person in the world who knows anything about football will agree with me, that's why we were sad when Balza left us)
And also one thing for all thoose who say that Henry is not a WC or Ronaldinho are wrong. Dinho is in crisis and that's obvious but that doesn't cancel his last three excellent seasons. And for those who remember he was excellent at PSG too, so he proved himself. I know he is popular because his fancy moves, but his game it's not only that but fany moves is something most of the people are remembering, so don't blame Dinho blame fans...
).Neddy was a WC but at the moment he is not anymore (probably cuz of his age) he is now a legend and for me that's above WC. Why??? Cut only WC player can become a legend.
Trezeguet is highly underrated and that's why many doesn't count on him as a WC, but he is still one of the best goalscorers in the world and that should mean he is a WC (unfortunatly, like it or not noone except Juve fans and few others doesn't count him as WC)
Buffon is the only true WC we have, he is best at his bussines and noone can argue with that :faq:
*note: I made this ranking based on popularity and appreciation in Europe, even I don't like this method cuz it's not showing true value of a player. Like Badass said Neddy is giving 110% on the pitch unlike many other "WC" players and that's why I would rather love to have 11 Neddy's instead of 11 WC players (and I'm sure that every person in the world who knows anything about football will agree with me, that's why we were sad when Balza left us)
And also one thing for all thoose who say that Henry is not a WC or Ronaldinho are wrong. Dinho is in crisis and that's obvious but that doesn't cancel his last three excellent seasons. And for those who remember he was excellent at PSG too, so he proved himself. I know he is popular because his fancy moves, but his game it's not only that but fany moves is something most of the people are remembering, so don't blame Dinho blame fans...
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Here is my opinion about WC players: Alex was an excellent player but not a truly WC, since his injury he lost pace and kinda dissapeared from international scene. He is highly rated among Juve and Italy fans but not only because his play but cuz of his personality and everything and I appreciate that much more than having an ignorant WC player. Alex is and will always stay legend at Juve but not in Italian NT or wider and that's a fact like it or not. I know that Alex unfairly is not getting a chance in Italian NT or he didn't got (you know what I mean, there is always someone who will play instead of him ).
Neddy was a WC but at the moment he is not anymore (probably cuz of his age) he is now a legend and for me that's above WC. Why??? Cut only WC player can become a legend.
Trezeguet is highly underrated and that's why many doesn't count on him as a WC, but he is still one of the best goalscorers in the world and that should mean he is a WC (unfortunatly, like it or not noone except Juve fans and few others doesn't count him as WC)
Buffon is the only true WC we have, he is best at his bussines and noone can argue with that :faq:
*note: I made this ranking based on popularity and appreciation in Europe, even I don't like this method cuz it's not showing true value of a player. Like Badass said Neddy is giving 110% on the pitch unlike many other "WC" players and that's why I would rather love to have 11 Neddy's instead of 11 WC players (and I'm sure that every person in the world who knows anything about football will agree with me, that's why we were sad when Balza left us)
And also one thing for all thoose who say that Henry is not a WC or Ronaldinho are wrong. Dinho is in crisis and that's obvious but that doesn't cancel his last three excellent seasons. And for those who remember he was excellent at PSG too, so he proved himself. I know he is popular because his fancy moves, but his game it's not only that but fany moves is something most of the people are remembering, so don't blame Dinho blame fans...
).Neddy was a WC but at the moment he is not anymore (probably cuz of his age) he is now a legend and for me that's above WC. Why??? Cut only WC player can become a legend.
Trezeguet is highly underrated and that's why many doesn't count on him as a WC, but he is still one of the best goalscorers in the world and that should mean he is a WC (unfortunatly, like it or not noone except Juve fans and few others doesn't count him as WC)
Buffon is the only true WC we have, he is best at his bussines and noone can argue with that :faq:
*note: I made this ranking based on popularity and appreciation in Europe, even I don't like this method cuz it's not showing true value of a player. Like Badass said Neddy is giving 110% on the pitch unlike many other "WC" players and that's why I would rather love to have 11 Neddy's instead of 11 WC players (and I'm sure that every person in the world who knows anything about football will agree with me, that's why we were sad when Balza left us)
And also one thing for all thoose who say that Henry is not a WC or Ronaldinho are wrong. Dinho is in crisis and that's obvious but that doesn't cancel his last three excellent seasons. And for those who remember he was excellent at PSG too, so he proved himself. I know he is popular because his fancy moves, but his game it's not only that but fany moves is something most of the people are remembering, so don't blame Dinho blame fans...
perhaps the term world class is a little too vague, there is no set standard, we all set our own standards as to what world class actually is
terrance and philip have definatly had too much influence on you. just keep digging a hole. me a fake fan? well sorry but i dont support real madrid either like ur profile suggests. jees you are already worse than maher the resident glory supporter. if i was u i wud be quiet, and just get along because this forum can really do without wanna be hardmen like you (perhaps im sounding a little hypocrytical to some here, but im sick of fighting sometimes)
About Pato I don't know much since I never watched him, but the thing is that every year media si pulling out another player who is labelled as a "next ....." and how many of them lived up expectations??? Just remeber D'alessandro or Cavenaghi...
However Ronaldinho case is something different, he came to PSG as a huge potential and well known joggler and he lived up expectations. He was good there and in Barca he brought his game on a bigger level mostly beacuse he is surrounded by better players than he was at PSG. And not to mention that Barca is more popular club than PSG and at Barca he exposed himself to a whole world and became more popular...
However Ronaldinho case is something different, he came to PSG as a huge potential and well known joggler
and he lived up expectations. He was good there and in Barca he brought his game on a bigger level mostly beacuse he is surrounded by better players than he was at PSG. And not to mention that Barca is more popular club than PSG and at Barca he exposed himself to a whole world and became more popular...
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About Pato I don't know much since I never watched him, but the thing is that every year media si pulling out another player who is labelled as a "next ....." and how many of them lived up expectations??? Just remeber D'alessandro or Cavenaghi...
However Ronaldinho case is something different, he came to PSG as a huge potential and well known joggler and he lived up expectations. He was good there and in Barca he brought his game on a bigger level mostly beacuse he is surrounded by better players than he was at PSG. And not to mention that Barca is more popular club than PSG and at Barca he exposed himself to a whole world and became more popular...
However Ronaldinho case is something different, he came to PSG as a huge potential and well known joggler
and he lived up expectations. He was good there and in Barca he brought his game on a bigger level mostly beacuse he is surrounded by better players than he was at PSG. And not to mention that Barca is more popular club than PSG and at Barca he exposed himself to a whole world and became more popular...
im not saying ronaldinho is rubbish if thats what ur thinking, ofcourse he has alot of potential and has alot more to show, but i certainly wudnt rate him as world class as of yet, i think its the fact he woo's the crowd the fans love him and do hype him up a little too much, but as i stated the label world class is a very grey and vague area
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the unfortunate part is that alot of fans these days do rate a player on you tube clips, what they read and hear, what fm says, how good they are on fifa or pes, how fast he can run, how many step overs a sec. how fit his mrs is, and not so much about the real factors such as work rate and consistency
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