Yeah right? Who the fuck are you to tell me what I have personally seen?
Ive been to about 10 games involving english teams, at which nothing worse than moderate swearing has occurred.
Ive been to two serie a games, both in which multiple people were hospitalized and i watched a 3 hour war of people screaming "vaffanculo" while hurling bottles, chairs, flares, and any other flaming/dangerous object at each other.
This is what i have seen.
English fans may be bad, but all the "incidents" ive seen lately have come out of the peninsula...like the police officer being killed... the vespa ... refs in roma...etc