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The Press blackout is over with Fabio Capello and Alessandro Del Piero commenting on the Scudetto and Juve’s future plans.

“This team has proved it has remarkable humility, determination and the desire to go all the way,” said the Coach after winning his seventh League title with four different clubs. “Milan never gave in and played a great Championship.”

“It was very difficult to maintain our focus when Milan wiped out the gap not once, but twice. However, I maintain the most important moment in the Scudetto race was our victory at Lazio. We were decimated by injuries and suspensions, so to win there was even more decisive than beating Milan at the San Siro.”

Pavel Nedved’s late strike sealed that victory at the Stadio Olimpico in Week 33, ensuring Juve stayed on top of the table from start to finish this season.

Capello’s decisions were not always popular, as his treatment of captain Alessandro Del Piero infuriated sections of the fanbase.

“I treat everyone the same way out of respect for the squad,” insisted the tactician. “Sometimes I’m right and in other occasions I make a mistake. There were times in which Del Piero needed to be substituted and I did that. When he was on fine form, I left him out there for 90 minutes. A Coach has to make tough choices that can be unpopular, but he will never intentionally try to pick on a player.”

Del Piero himself also admitted that the lack of certainty in his campaign pushed him to improve his performance.

“The last few years have been difficult for me with injuries, so in actual fact I played more this season than I did in 2004,” said the captain. “I thank Capello, because he made the right choices and took Juve to the title. It was a victory against those who said I was finished, but above all I dedicate the Scudetto to the people who always supported me.”

Their attention now turns to the future, with reports of a £48m Real Madrid offer for Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Barcelona and Arsenal’s interest in David Trezeguet.

“We were fortunate to sign all the players we had our sights on in the summer and they proved to be good buys,” noted Capello. “I can guarantee that the most important players won’t leave Juve, not even Trezeguet.”

Director General Luciano Moggi also commented on the transfer policy that had been criticised in the close season, especially after the departure of Fabrizio Miccoli, Enzo Maresca, Mark Iuliano, Nicola Legrottaglie, Igor Tudor and Giorgio Chiellini.

“Everyone kept pointing out we had a small squad, but they didn’t mention the injuries that ruled out Nedved, Trezeguet, Del Piero and Jonathan Zebina for long periods,” said the transfer guru.

“We played well all the way through, which wasn’t easy for a side that started out with the Champions’ League preliminary round in August. We proved Juve are the best on the pitch and I’m happy to have won it after a fascinating head to head battle with Milan.”

Director Antonio Giraudo had a special dedication to make at the end of this Press blackout. “It has been a tough year for Juventus with the death of President Umberto Agnelli. He had always been a key figure for us and we dedicate the title to him.”

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    “Emerson will stay here,” said the Juventus general manager after the 2-2 against Livorno.
     
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    ++ [ originally posted by Elnur_E65 ] ++
    Very good.

    I am happy that we have an excellent chemistry in our squad.
    And this chemistry should not be disturbed.
     

    Bjerknes

    "Top Economist"
    Mar 16, 2004
    111,315
    #6
    I have my doubts about Emerson as well, however how dumb would it be to sell him for some average price and take a chance on Essien or another player? Why would we do that? We have a top young forward in Zlatan, we have a top defensive midfielder.....it's not like we have Zidanes here who do not seem to fit in the squad anymore and want to move on. The top players we have that can be easily replaced are Zambrotta and Trezeguet....if someone is going to be sold it will be one of those two, certainly not Zlatan.

    And nice words by Giruado at the end as well.
     

    swag

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    Sep 23, 2003
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    #7
    I completely follow the critical nature of how just buying a good player won't exactly guarantee that he will be a fit and/or will perform in the team. For example, getting a Ronaldinho for 50MM Euros is worthless if he doesn't fit and can't deliver for us. And we've seen this kind of misery all too often (some Juve players, many Inter players, etc.).

    But you cannot ignore the fact that we bought Zlatan for about 20MM Euro and in one year he's being offered a turnaround price with an additional 50MM Euro profit. Talk about a return on investment. No sane business person can ignore such an offer - or at least not take a credible look at it. Because while there's no guarantee that any replacement player(s) will fit or perform as well as, say, Zlatan has ... it's also true that past performance doesn't necessarily equate with future results. Zlatan could improve, but he could also offer a couple of year's worth of evidence that this season was a little bit of a fluke. Not to mention risks of injuries, Capello getting bored and leaving, etc.

    Ever player must have a price. There's no logic to having irreplaceable players at any price.
     

    Bjerknes

    "Top Economist"
    Mar 16, 2004
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    #8
    Well I consider myself a sane businessman Greg and I can seriously hold back on selling Zlatan. I really doubt this season was a "fluke" considering it's his first year in Serie A and showed his skill in both Serie A and the Champions League. We can't continue on this road of selling our top players because we will always have to start over again with the new players we find. And considering Zlatan is only 23, the chances of him improving are far greater than him just being fluke. Milan has kept Shevchenko, Real have held onto Raul, Arsenal have secured Henry, Juventus has held and loved Del Piero.....and considering we don't exactly need an entire new squad, Zlatan's sale would be a very greedy, stupid, and premature decision.

    But hey if we want to continue selling our most prized assets I guess that's one thing I'll always hate about this club.
     

    swag

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    Sep 23, 2003
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    There are some talents you just can't replace - no matter how much money. But I think we proved with Zidane that even someone of his caliber is expendable for the right price - and can leave your team better off for it in the long run.

    Juve absolutely does not invest enough in young talent - let along young, developing talent it would actually field on the starting squad. I really, really don't want to see Zlatan go. But no player is bigger than the team of course. We have DP threads here dedicated to that fact (eventhough many still debate that as a fact :frown: ).

    So when Moggi and Capello sit down and look at the pieces they have to work with to build a squad that can not only win the Scudetto, but also the CL ... and do it in a sustainable fashion ... I think you have to entertain a Zlatan trade among your available options.
     

    olkiller

    Senior Member
    Sep 9, 2002
    748
    #11
    ++ [ originally posted by Andy ] ++
    Fine then. But when he scores the winning wondergoal in the Champions League for Real Madrid don't regret the decision. ;)
    You must be making allusion to Zidane. He played two finals with Juventus and a semi-final. He missed easy goals (I'll never forget that missed opportunity on a one-on-one ag. Real Madrid), and choked overall.
    That aside, we gave Zlatan a new dimension, thus we should keep him at least another two years. Yet, he may demand some substantial improvements of his current contract. Moreover, Juventus needs cash. I'm afraid the sale is rather probable, Andy.
     

    gray

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    Apr 22, 2003
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    #12
    No player is bigger than the club, and if selling Zlatan will be beneficial in the long run, then of course we should go ahead with it.

    HOWEVER, when it comes to Zlatan, I REALLY don't think that's the case.

    Screw Rooney, screw Ronaldo, screw Kerlon, screw Freddy Adu, screw Jean Carlos Chera. Zlatan for me is the most exciting youngster on the planet. Sure, he has a few rough edges here and there, but he's 23, and the most important thing is that he has all the foundations of an absolutely world class player.

    Selling Zlatan after only his first season simply because the moolah is on the table would be an extremely rash and premature decision, even if one only looks at it from a debits and credits point of view. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire by selling off Microsoft as soon as it looked like it had some moneymaking potential.

    Zlatan in his first season has been our top scorer and second-best assist man, scoring more goals in his first Serie A season than he ever did in the Eredivisie, not to mention he scored the same number of goals as Adriano, and only one less than the great Sheva. How much more promise does the lad need to show in order to not be sold?

    I think it'd be best (both from a footballing and monetary point of view) to give Zlatan more time to show us what he can do, and if anything, raise his sale price a bit more.

    If we sell Zlatan in the summer, I will be very, very pissed off, and I'll probably go to my room and have a cry, denouncing my loyalty to Juventus... then come crawling back :irritate:
     
    Aug 1, 2003
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    I dont give a fiddler's fart about Zlatan, if we sell Emerson for an average price I will personally tear Moggi's liver out. And, I really, really, really, really, really wish Zambro wont leave Juventus. He has been the most loyal and dependable soldier. :stuckup:
     

    Adrian

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    Jan 31, 2003
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    #14
    money is one thing but being able to build your team with young talents like zlatan is another. if we start selling our good young talents, which already started last season with maresca and even miccoli, we'll never build a solid quality side.

    sure, if we sell zlatan for that fee, we may be able to get gilardino and even cassano who are just as capable if not better in certain areas of the game, but who knows what moggi will do.

    every player can be replaced, but the question of whether they will be worries me. Selling Emerson for 30 million and replacing him with Mozart is an idea Moggi will exercise. Selling Zlatan for 70 million and replacing him with a dropkick from a lower team in serie A is another idea he would be likened too.

    this cannot happen.
     

    Maher

    Juventuz addict
    Dec 16, 2002
    13,521
    #15
    ++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
    No player is bigger than the club, and if selling Zlatan will be beneficial in the long run, then of course we should go ahead with it.

    HOWEVER, when it comes to Zlatan, I REALLY don't think that's the case.

    Screw Rooney, screw Ronaldo, screw Kerlon, screw Freddy Adu, screw Jean Carlos Chera. Zlatan for me is the most exciting youngster on the planet. Sure, he has a few rough edges here and there, but he's 23, and the most important thing is that he has all the foundations of an absolutely world class player.

    Selling Zlatan after only his first season simply because the moolah is on the table would be an extremely rash and premature decision, even if one only looks at it from a debits and credits point of view. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire by selling off Microsoft as soon as it looked like it had some moneymaking potential.

    Zlatan in his first season has been our top scorer and second-best assist man, scoring more goals in his first Serie A season than he ever did in the Eredivisie, not to mention he scored the same number of goals as Adriano, and only one less than the great Sheva. How much more promise does the lad need to show in order to not be sold?

    I think it'd be best (both from a footballing and monetary point of view) to give Zlatan more time to show us what he can do, and if anything, raise his sale price a bit more.

    If we sell Zlatan in the summer, I will be very, very pissed off, and I'll probably go to my room and have a cry, denouncing my loyalty to Juventus... then come crawling back :irritate:
    agreed :D
     

    Monkfish

    Senior Member
    Jun 14, 2003
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    #16
    Making a quick profit on an investment isn't always the best thing.

    Remember Vieri? Juve bought him for 1 million, and after a season sold him to Athletico Madrid for about 11 million - which was good business. But look at Vieri, he went on to become one of the top strikers in the world and there were strong rumours at one point that Juve were preparing to buy him back for about 30 million.

    I would have loved to have seen Vieri remain with Juve for his career, and I'm sure Juve regret selling him. Well, they should do.

    I know it is different with Zlatan, because Real's bid is astronomical (surely it can't ever get any higher no matter how good he becomes) - but the principal remains the same.
     

    Desmond

    Senior Member
    Jul 12, 2002
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    #17
    We sold Zidane off and were better off for it.Sure,at the start everyone was sore about it and said things like how we'd flop and that our time was over etc.But in exchange we got Nedved, Buffon, Thuram and Salas.With the exception of Marcelo,we dramatically improved the squad in every department and the following seasons we were named second favourites to win CL behind only Real.

    In comparison this team is less dependent on Zlatan than it was on Zidane,and unlike Zidane's case we do have a replacement in the shape of Mutu.It's a risk,no doubt.But wasn't Zidane's sale a risk too,and a bigger one at that?

    Zlatan's season has been less spectacular than many imagine and isn't the best youngster in the world,contrary to popular belief.Fortunately for us,Real don't know that either.So I say we go for the 70m and let Moggi do what he's always done.

    Does anyone believe Zlatan's brilliant season is a better precedent for success than the trophies we've won from selling our star players in the past decade?
     

    jussiut

    Junior Member
    Feb 22, 2005
    431
    #19
    Juve should seriously consider selling Zlatan, if indeed the offer of 70 euros is true. BUT that would be wise only in one condition - we would have talented and great players in mind and ready to be bought, a la Thuram, Nedved and Buffon.

    So I'm only for selling Zlatan if we use the money right. What a surprise. :D
     
    May 4, 2004
    11,622
    #20
    ++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
    No player is bigger than the club, and if selling Zlatan will be beneficial in the long run, then of course we should go ahead with it.

    HOWEVER, when it comes to Zlatan, I REALLY don't think that's the case.

    Screw Rooney, screw Ronaldo, screw Kerlon, screw Freddy Adu, screw Jean Carlos Chera. Zlatan for me is the most exciting youngster on the planet. Sure, he has a few rough edges here and there, but he's 23, and the most important thing is that he has all the foundations of an absolutely world class player.

    Selling Zlatan after only his first season simply because the moolah is on the table would be an extremely rash and premature decision, even if one only looks at it from a debits and credits point of view. Bill Gates didn't become a billionaire by selling off Microsoft as soon as it looked like it had some moneymaking potential.

    Zlatan in his first season has been our top scorer and second-best assist man, scoring more goals in his first Serie A season than he ever did in the Eredivisie, not to mention he scored the same number of goals as Adriano, and only one less than the great Sheva. How much more promise does the lad need to show in order to not be sold?

    I think it'd be best (both from a footballing and monetary point of view) to give Zlatan more time to show us what he can do, and if anything, raise his sale price a bit more.

    If we sell Zlatan in the summer, I will be very, very pissed off, and I'll probably go to my room and have a cry, denouncing my loyalty to Juventus... then come crawling back :irritate:
    Very Well Said Gary :)
    Cant agree more... !
     

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